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Friday, December 11, 2015

If artist has dubious character + Marriage between what + 6 more

Baba

This email contains 8 sections:
1. Posting: When artists are of dubious character then what to do
2. Posting: Marriage between what
3. The spiritual aspirant has to hasten that auspicious moment - Ananda Vanii
4. End Quote: Ananda Marga ideology is answer of any problem
5. Hindi Quote: बाबा अगर नाचना सिखलाना शुरू कर दिये, तो “हम लोगों को भी
6. PS #4100: गुलाब के बगीचे में ऊषाकाल में बुलबुल मधुरता से वह क्या संदेश  दे रही है
7. Comment: Re: Dada V's deception unveiled: More proof
8. Links


When artists are of dubious character then what to do

Note: Please bear in mind that those who do not give importance to Baba's divine teachings this letter is not for them.

Namaskar,
Here is an important point related with a bad and characterless artist. To understand this matter fully please read Baba’s below teaching. Without understanding this following guideline from Baba, this topic will remain elusive.

Ananda Marga philosophy states, "The youth of a country are attracted to artists; it is therefore the duty of society and the state to monitor these artists' ideals and character. Otherwise they may exert a harmful influence on young men and women who are the future hope of society.”

“...It is essential for artists to have impeccable conduct, a healthy lifestyle and strength of character. If those whom youths respect as ideal men and women possess an ideal character, the characters of those whom they influence will no doubt also be positively affected. In addition, ideal artists and actors who have a strong character will be able to express their artistic brilliance more sweetly and completely.”

“Characterless, drunken or greedy artists will be considered liabilities by their fans and society...strict vigilance should be kept over the purity of their [artists] individual conduct. They should not become the cause of a disease which invades the whole social body like a cancer.

“If actors and actresses fail to acquire a basic level of personal purity or are reluctant to acquire it, it will be the duty of society and the state to compel them to lead good lives by creating circumstantial pressure. No matter how talented they may be, immoral actors and actresses will have to be deprived of their right to exhibit their artistic talents, and sent to reform schools." (1)

In His above guideline, Baba states that artists (singers, dancers, actors, performers etc) must be of good character and adhere to the moral codes and follow a healthy lifestyle - and not indulge in same-sex relations. Yet all too often these artists lead licentious lives. According to Ananda Marga philosophy, this must stop. All artists must be held to a strict moral standard, or be taken off the stage and sent to reform school.


This is the “artist” in question

Here below is a photo of the artist in question: Watch out when she is talking to girls as she is an alleged predator of young girls - be sure to keep your distance.



Once again, in case you did not read this earlier, here above is a photo of the artist in question: Watch out when she is talking to girls as she is an alleged predator of young girls - be sure to keep your distance.

It is well-known throughout Ananda Marga, that Jyotsna (Jyoshna) Latrobe has a long history of impropriety in the form of lesbianism (*).

Even worse is that she has allegedly preyed upon unsuspecting margii sisters, during and after years and years of co-habitating with her female sex partner, i.e. gay relations. So sister Jyotsna suffers from a dual problem.

First is that she practices and promotes gay relations which are not accepted in Ananda Marga. And secondly, she seemingly has a penchant for using her allurement as an artist to draw naive and innocent sisters into her fold of gay sexual relations.


Look what the Gurukul website has done

Now see here below how the Gurukul website is promoting Jyotsna. As the head of Gurukul, Dada Shambhushivananda should take care of the situation. As it is against Guru’s principles to highlight degraded artists. Warning: Sister J is a confirmed lesbian and alleged sexual predator. Such artists should not be appreciated due to their low character. We kindly request all readers to communicate with respected Shambhushivananda so he can arrange to have this taken down from the Gurukul website. It is quite insulting and will only serve to degraded the mind of our teenager students etc. 



Once again, if you did not read this section earlier, here above is how the Gurukul website is promoting Jyotsna. As the head of Gurukul, Dada Shambhushivananda should take care of the situation. As it is against Guru’s principles to highlight degraded artists. Warning: Sister J is a confirmed lesbian and alleged sexual predator. Such artists should not be appreciated due to their low character. We kindly request all readers to to communicated with respected Shambhushivananda so he can arrange to have this taken down from the Gurukul website. It is quite insulting and will only serve to degraded the mind of our teenager students etc.


Defeats the very purpose of holding a retreat 

Those artists who support and perform same-sex relations, should not be allowed because their presence defeats the very purpose of holding a retreat. A retreat is done to educate common folks about our Ananda Marga lifestyle. Thus all instructors, guides, and teachers at our Ananda Marga retreats must be of the highest moral character.

Even in materialistic countries we see that regardless of what is acceptable in the general society, certain professions like judges and teachers are held to a higher moral standard. For instance, adult pornography is legal in the USA, but those who have worked in that industry will never be allowed to become a teacher. And many such examples can be given.

Thus when Ananda Marga does not appreciate sex for sex's sake (filthy relations), then those involved in such dealings should not be leading seminars at our Ananda Marga retreats. Their presence at the retreat will be toxic.

Namaskar,
in Him,
Mirabai
Melissa Birnbaum


Note: It should be borne in mind that at last year’s New Year's retreat in Suva Sector (Tyalgum Ridge Retreat, Northern NSW, 27 Dec 2014 - 02 Jan 2015) the organisers went against Guru’s teaching by inviting an artist with an unhealthy lifestyle to lead a seminar. They allowed Jyotsna to lead despite the fact that she engages in, supports, and propagates same sex relations (i.e. women having sexual engagement with other women).

So, placing her on a pedestal and inviting her to lead a seminar at last year’s New Year's retreat in Suva sector was a recipe for disaster. It was an overt violation of Sadguru's guideline. Those organisers should have heeded Sadguru's warning and removed sister J from the panel of presenters.

(*) Lesbianism: noun  (Concise Encyclopedia): The quality or state of intense emotional and usually erotic attraction of a woman to another woman.

The following graphic highlight's Jyotsna's role at last year's retreat:





References
1. Human Society - 1, Various Occupations


== Section 2 ==

Marriage between what

Namaskar,
Those new to Ananda marga may not know Baba’s teaching that marriage is between different genders not the same. Margiis are not like animals in human form but far evolved beings - devas. Here is Baba’s teaching on this issue of gay and lesbian relations,  and what constitutes a marital bond in our Ananda Marga.

According to Guru, marriage must be between members of the opposite sex (i.e. heterosexual union) and not members of the same sex (i.e.homosexual union). The husband must be a male and the wife must be a female. Whereas in same-sex relations either the husband is a female or the wife is a male.

Sadguru Baba says, "Those who accepted this new arrangement were declared married, and the other members of their society would be witnesses to the marriage ceremony, to bless the newly-married couple and pledge their cooperation to them. The Sanskrit equivalent for marriage is viváha (vi – vah + ghaiṋ): it means, after the ceremony, the man and woman can no longer live as libertines or as irresponsible so-called family people. They have to discharge their full obligations as bharttá and kalatra, responsible husband and responsible wife." (1)

Next is another guideline from Sadguru that marriage must always be between a man and a woman - not sexual relations between members of the same sex.

Lord Shrii Shrii Anandamurtiji states, "Another Sanskrit equivalent for “woman” is nárii, which is feminine gender. But Shiva used the term kalatra, in the neuter; for to her husband a woman is a wife, but to her children and other members of the society, she is as dignified as her male counterpart. So by declaring a married lady to be kalatra, Shiva gave her special status, and addressed her in neuter terms." (2)

Following is another of Sadguru's teachings that vivaha is tantra’s special ceremony of marriage between a man and a woman - not members of the same sex, ie male having physical relations with another male, nor a female physically indulged with another female.

Ananda Marga philosophy states, "The liberal meaning of the term viváha is “live one's life in a new way with a special type of responsibility”. This is the underlying significance of the Shaeva system of marriage." (3)


Marriage is always between a male and a female

In Sadguru's below below example, He is guiding that marriage is always between a male and a female, never between two females or two males.

Sadguru Baba states, "In His life, Shiva Himself married with this commitment. We can say without the least hesitation that Shiva was the first person in this world to marry in the proper sense of the term. He was eager to see that the married women did their duties properly towards their husbands, that is, that they always took care to remove the difficulties of their husbands." (4)

Verily in Sadguru's next example, all can understand that marriage is between a man and a woman.

Ananda Marga philosophy states, "Thus it was His strict instruction, Yad bharttureva hitamicchati tad kalatram [“If in the mind of the wife, there is the sincere desire for the welfare of her husband, the family will be blissful and a thatched house will become a golden home”]." (5)


Let’s see:
gay supporters grasp this Baba's teaching or not?


This following quote is well-explained and shows how marriage is only between a male and a female and not the same gender. Since the inception of marriage during Lord Shiva's time, marriage has been between a man and a woman. And that is what Baba has approved for AMPS.

So when the point of same sex marriage is raised then one should give Baba's teaching that it is always between a man and a woman - not between a man and a man etc. In the west, some so-called open-minded people are confused and always try and bring some argument in favour of gay marriage, but their logic has no legs to stand upon.

Here begins Baba’s teaching that marriage is a union exclusively between a male and a female - not between two females or two males.

Ananda Marga philosophy states, "But Shiva did more than that: He declared that women must be kalatra, which means that women must discharge their obligations to their husbands and their children in such a way that the latter will not have the least difficulty." (6)

namaskar
in Him,
Malati
Maria Geneseo

1. Namah Shiváya Shántáya, Shivokti - 3
2. Namah Shiváya Shántáya, Shivokti - 3
3. Namah Shiváya Shántáya, Shivokti - 3
4. Namah Shiváya Shántáya, Shivokti - 3
5. Namah Shiváya Shántáya, Shivokti - 3
6. Namah Shiváya Shántáya, Shivokti - 3


== Section 3 ==


बाबा अगर नाचना सिखलाना शुरू कर दिये, तो “हम लोगों को भी

“करीब-करीब हर आदमी नाचते थे | मुनि-ऋषि लोग उत्सव में नाचते थे | और यह जो जाड़े में लोगों को तकलीफ़ होती है, जाड़े के बाद वसन्तोत्सव, आजकल जिसको “होली” कहते हैं, उस सब में भी लोग नाचते थे | तो यह नाच का fixed rule था | हम सोचे थे कि गाना हम जैसा re-orientalization कर रहे हैं, ठीक वैसा नाच में भी करेंगे, classicalize करके | किन्तु देखे अगर वैसा हम करें, तो और काम किस वक्त करेंगे, इसलिए नहीं किये | तुम लोगों की राय क्या है जी ?

[सभी उपस्थित मार्गी चुप]

सब चुप रह गया | अच्छा, क्योंकि इन लोगों के मन में डर है, कि बाबा अगर नाचना सिखलाना शुरू कर दिये, तो “हम लोगों को भी तो नाचना पड़ेगा” |

[ऐसा बाबा बोलकर बाबा मुस्कराए | बाबा की बात सुनकर सभी उपस्थित मार्गी हँसने लगे |]

यह बाबा के कैसेट से सीधे लिखा गया, बाबा का यह असली प्रवचन, अमृतोपदेश है। आनन्द मार्ग हिन्दी पुस्तकों में छपे प्रवचन तो नक़ली प्रवचन हैं, असली नहीं] (1)

Reference
1. हिंदी अप्रकाशित : march 11, 1984,Jaipur


== Section 4 ==


गुलाब के बगीचे में ऊषाकाल में बुलबुल मधुरता से वह क्या संदेश  दे रही है

प्रभात संगीत 4100 गुलबागीचाय बुलबुली गाय, विहाने संध्याय कि जे वार्ता ...

भावार्थ

गुलाब के बगीचे में ऊषाकाल के हल्के अंधेरे में बुलबुल मधुरता से गाती है। मैं आश्चर्य  चकित हॅूं कि वह क्या संदेश  दे रही है। उसके वर्णन में, काॅंऔं और फूलों के रंगों की सुंदरता में साम्य झलकता है ---अच्छा भी और बुरा भी।

बुलबुल पुकारती है, हे मनुष्यो!  ध्यान से सुनो, खुले मन और हृदय से आओ। सुनो! परमपुरुष की  गगनभेदी ध्वनि  गूंज  रही है। जो सभी कष्टों और व्यथाओं को दूर करती है। यह वह अवसर है जब वे  दिव्यसत्ता परमपुरुष, धरती पर आये हैं, सुनो, सुनो!

हे मनुष्यो! सभी प्रकार का रोना  धोना , आॅंसु और मुस्कान सब कुछ त्यागकर परमपुरुष को  हृदय की गहराई में बसा लो। उनकी मधुर इच्छा के सामने अपने को समर्पित कर दो । और उन्हें अपना निकटतम और प्रियतम बना लो। पूर्णिमा  के प्रकाश  का यह दृश्य , भक्ति की चाहत भरी आधीरता की तैरती भावनाओं को पुनः प्रकाशित करता है। आध्यात्मिक भावनाओं का वातावरण है, यह एक सुअवसर है, उन परमपुरुष के साथ भक्तिभरा गहरा संबंध जोड़ लो।
टीआरएस

- Trans: Dr. T.R.S.


== Section 5 ==

The spiritual aspirant has to hasten that auspicious moment

“The fact that the fortune of every individual, not only of this earth but of the entire cosmos, has been wreathed together, will have to be admitted one day by people. The spiritual aspirant has to hasten that auspicious moment by pauseless effort, service and propagation of the great Ideology. This alone is the Supreme task for the present humanity.” (Ananda Vanii #30)

Note: The above is one of Baba’s original Ananda Vaniis. These original and true Ananda Vaniis are unique, eternal guidelines that stand as complete discourses in and of themselves. They are unlike Fake Ananda Vaniis which are fabricated by most of the groups - H, B etc.

== Section 6 ==

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Ananda Marga ideology is answer of any problem

“A correct spiritual ideology is the only solution to the problems confronting the world. From this perspective we can call Ananda Marga ideology the philosophers' stone. Just as the philosophers' stone is meant to transform everything into gold, Ananda Marga ideology can, most definitely, find a just and rational solution whenever it is applied to any problem.” (1)

Reference
1. Problems of the Day, point #36
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== Section 7 ==

Re: Dada V's deception unveiled: More proof


Baba

Namaskar.

Until we get our own governing bodies back in line or order I propose we utilise the legal system to undo illegal and unethical behavior of our leadership.

I urge those holding.any AMPS  office to arrest and/or to bring this Dada to court charging him with embezzlement and grand larceny so the money can be given back to the organization and do so with other Acaryas who steal from Baba's beloved missionary organization.  Moreover, let us remind all WTs that we will continue to do the same with them at any time in the future: arrest anyone who misappropriates money and property from the organization until we can again retain honest leadership.

Brotherly,
Vyas

Here is a link to the initial letter on this topic - Dada V's deception unveiled


== Section 8 ==

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