Baba
This email contains five sections:
1. Posting: "Baba wanted me to join B group"
This email contains five sections:
1. Posting: "Baba wanted me to join B group"
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3. PS #1089: बाबा, तुम ब्रह्मरथ पर बैठकर प्रत्येक व्यष्टि
4. We all belong to one family - Ananda Vanii
5. Links
Namaskar,
Here is the third part of this series of the discussion between Shrii Narayan Panda (BP, Vishakapatnam) and Acarya Bhaskarananda Avt. Links to the prior two parts have been appended below.
As a reminder, thus far in the series, Dada Bhaskarananda has stated:
- "Ba'ba' gave Proutist Bengal because He wanted that Prout should first be established in Bengal and then in other areas."
- "What Bengal thinks today, India & others think tomorrow. So PROUT will be established in Bengal first and then it will be spread to other areas."
- "After all, Ba'ba' supported Bengal so much. Shabda Cayanika was given in Bengali, Baba lived in Bengal after 1980 when the organisation was big, Prabhat Samgiita was given in Bengali."
Such were the justifications given by Dadaji.
Baba has equal love for all samajas of the globe
In response, Shrii Narayan Panda has presented logic and reasoning to demonstrate that Baba is not partial to Bengal and the Amara Bengali samaj. Baba has equal love for all samajas of the globe. Secondly, it was demonstrated that Shabda Cayanika is an investigation into the Sanskrit language, not Bengali. Plus the vast majority of Baba's discourses were given originally in other languages; and, Baba wrote Prabhat Samgiita in Bengali to show us that artists and poets should write in the local language.
To read more about these earlier points, please refer to links to those letters appended below.
Story: part 3
Keeping this in mind, here again we pick up the story.
Dada Bhaskaranandji continued: "I took the side of 'B' group during the division to satisfy Ba'ba'."
Then Dadaji quoted one proverb in Hindi. Its meaning is: You can dissatisfy God / Ba'ba' but if you dissatisfy Guru, your position will be in danger. Dada Bhaskarananda concluded by saying that he didn't want to be Gurudrohii (traitor to Guru), so he joined Kolkata group.
Response #3:
can anyone really believe this
All I can say here is that it is just plain sad to see the lowly state of Dadaji's mind. Here Dada Bhaskaranandji is openly proclaiming that he joined a group. Does he really think that he can please Baba by advocating groupism.
Prout philosophy states, "Motivated by socio-sentiment, one group harms and exploits another group in the social, economic, cultural and religious spheres." (1)
When Baba is propagating neo-humanism then how can anyone think that Baba is guiding them to follow groupism.
Indeed when Baba Himself has declared that groupism is the cause of so much torture and bloodshed, then who can think that one can please Baba by falling into groupism. It is nothing short of a tragedy that respected Dada Bhaskarananda has fallen in this manner. We should all try and revive him. Because really he has much to give to the world.
Tragically, hypocritically people do all kinds of misguided and malicious things in the name of God: The crusades, jihad, killing and torturing. Indeed there has been so much spilling of blood and destruction in the name of God.
Openly exploited others in the name of the Supreme
And now Dada Bhaskarananda is singing the same tune and adding another chapter to this awful story. If he were courageous he would say that all this was his idea; only cowardly people say such things in the name of God.
Prout philosophy states, "When the advocates of dogma and the followers of isms lacked sufficient charisma to convince people through the power of their personalities, they tried to persuade them by taking the name of God. They openly exploited others in the name of the Supreme. Sometimes they said, “I have received certain instructions in a dream. God’s commandments are that you should follow these instructions“." (2)
Similarly, Dada Bhaskarananda lacks the requisite strength and dynamism to convince others that following groupism is admirable, so he puts forth this dogma in Baba's name. I do not think that any right-thinking margii will be duped by this shameful approach. We all know that Baba is cent-per-cent against all kinds of groupism.
Story: part 4 : They fabricate so many stories
Hearing all this I told Dada Bhaskarananda: "With all due respect, so many Da'da's (sannyasiis) say Ba'ba' told this, or Ba'ba told that. They fabricate so many stories and make margiis look like fools for believing in such concocted stories. So I don't believe your words that Ba'ba' wanted this or that, or Baba told this or that. Kindly show me Ba'ba's statements in black & white."
Such was my response and there was no time to say more because his train was about to leave.
Response #4:
Baba has put all his teachings in writing
We all know that this is the first time that Taraka Brahma has put all His divine teachings in a clear, cohesive ideology that has been written down and published. If any sadhaka or interested person wants to know Baba's teaching or perspective on any topic, they should consult Baba's published scripture and not rely on hearsay from this or that Dada.
To be continued...
Namaskar,
In Him,
Narayan Panda
References
1. NH-LOI: Disc #7
2. Prout Nutshell, part 16, Religious Dogma – Section A
3. PS #1089: बाबा, तुम ब्रह्मरथ पर बैठकर प्रत्येक व्यष्टि
4. We all belong to one family - Ananda Vanii
5. Links
"Baba wanted me to join B group"
Namaskar,
Here is the third part of this series of the discussion between Shrii Narayan Panda (BP, Vishakapatnam) and Acarya Bhaskarananda Avt. Links to the prior two parts have been appended below.
As a reminder, thus far in the series, Dada Bhaskarananda has stated:
- "Ba'ba' gave Proutist Bengal because He wanted that Prout should first be established in Bengal and then in other areas."
- "What Bengal thinks today, India & others think tomorrow. So PROUT will be established in Bengal first and then it will be spread to other areas."
- "After all, Ba'ba' supported Bengal so much. Shabda Cayanika was given in Bengali, Baba lived in Bengal after 1980 when the organisation was big, Prabhat Samgiita was given in Bengali."
Such were the justifications given by Dadaji.
Baba has equal love for all samajas of the globe
In response, Shrii Narayan Panda has presented logic and reasoning to demonstrate that Baba is not partial to Bengal and the Amara Bengali samaj. Baba has equal love for all samajas of the globe. Secondly, it was demonstrated that Shabda Cayanika is an investigation into the Sanskrit language, not Bengali. Plus the vast majority of Baba's discourses were given originally in other languages; and, Baba wrote Prabhat Samgiita in Bengali to show us that artists and poets should write in the local language.
To read more about these earlier points, please refer to links to those letters appended below.
Story: part 3
Keeping this in mind, here again we pick up the story.
Dada Bhaskaranandji continued: "I took the side of 'B' group during the division to satisfy Ba'ba'."
Then Dadaji quoted one proverb in Hindi. Its meaning is: You can dissatisfy God / Ba'ba' but if you dissatisfy Guru, your position will be in danger. Dada Bhaskarananda concluded by saying that he didn't want to be Gurudrohii (traitor to Guru), so he joined Kolkata group.
Response #3:
can anyone really believe this
All I can say here is that it is just plain sad to see the lowly state of Dadaji's mind. Here Dada Bhaskaranandji is openly proclaiming that he joined a group. Does he really think that he can please Baba by advocating groupism.
Prout philosophy states, "Motivated by socio-sentiment, one group harms and exploits another group in the social, economic, cultural and religious spheres." (1)
When Baba is propagating neo-humanism then how can anyone think that Baba is guiding them to follow groupism.
Indeed when Baba Himself has declared that groupism is the cause of so much torture and bloodshed, then who can think that one can please Baba by falling into groupism. It is nothing short of a tragedy that respected Dada Bhaskarananda has fallen in this manner. We should all try and revive him. Because really he has much to give to the world.
Tragically, hypocritically people do all kinds of misguided and malicious things in the name of God: The crusades, jihad, killing and torturing. Indeed there has been so much spilling of blood and destruction in the name of God.
Openly exploited others in the name of the Supreme
And now Dada Bhaskarananda is singing the same tune and adding another chapter to this awful story. If he were courageous he would say that all this was his idea; only cowardly people say such things in the name of God.
Prout philosophy states, "When the advocates of dogma and the followers of isms lacked sufficient charisma to convince people through the power of their personalities, they tried to persuade them by taking the name of God. They openly exploited others in the name of the Supreme. Sometimes they said, “I have received certain instructions in a dream. God’s commandments are that you should follow these instructions“." (2)
Similarly, Dada Bhaskarananda lacks the requisite strength and dynamism to convince others that following groupism is admirable, so he puts forth this dogma in Baba's name. I do not think that any right-thinking margii will be duped by this shameful approach. We all know that Baba is cent-per-cent against all kinds of groupism.
Story: part 4 : They fabricate so many stories
Hearing all this I told Dada Bhaskarananda: "With all due respect, so many Da'da's (sannyasiis) say Ba'ba' told this, or Ba'ba told that. They fabricate so many stories and make margiis look like fools for believing in such concocted stories. So I don't believe your words that Ba'ba' wanted this or that, or Baba told this or that. Kindly show me Ba'ba's statements in black & white."
Such was my response and there was no time to say more because his train was about to leave.
Response #4:
Baba has put all his teachings in writing
We all know that this is the first time that Taraka Brahma has put all His divine teachings in a clear, cohesive ideology that has been written down and published. If any sadhaka or interested person wants to know Baba's teaching or perspective on any topic, they should consult Baba's published scripture and not rely on hearsay from this or that Dada.
To be continued...
Namaskar,
In Him,
Narayan Panda
References
1. NH-LOI: Disc #7
2. Prout Nutshell, part 16, Religious Dogma – Section A
== Section 3 ==
बाबा, तुम ब्रह्मरथ पर बैठकर प्रत्येक व्यष्टि को दिव्य राज्य में ले जाने के लिए यहाँआये हो।
प्रभात संगीत 1089 आलोकेर सौर रथे सबाइ नीते तुमि एसेछो....
भावार्थ
बाबा, हे मेरे परमपुरुष! तुम दिव्य आभामय सौर-रथ पर बैठकर आये हो, तुम प्रत्येक व्यष्टि को दिव्य राज्य में ले जाने, मोक्ष देने आये हो। तुम बड़े छोटे और तुच्छ आदि का भेद नहीं रखते, तुम सबकी कहानियाॅं सुनते और सब के हृदय की भावनायें समझते हो।
हे प्रभु ! मैंने तुम्हें देखा भी नहीं परन्तु मैंने तुमको प्यार किया है। मैं हमेशा तुमको निकट और प्रेममय अनुभव करता हॅूं। और जब मैंने तुम्हारे बारे में सुना समझा भी नहीं था तब भी मैं तुमसे मोहित, आकर्षित हो गया था। बाबा तुम इतने कृपालु हो कि तुम योग्यता और अयोग्यता पर ध्यान ही नहीं देते सब को प्यार करते हो। तुम बिना शर्त सब को प्यार करते हो, और मैं यह अनुभव करता हूूं कि तुम हमेशा,देश, काल और पात्र त्रिदण्डों से परे सदा साथ हो।
ए मेरे प्रियतम! तुम ने हमेशा मेरे लिये बहुत कुछ किया है और बदले में तुमने कुछ नहीं चाहा। मेरे सैकड़ों दोष जानते हुये भी तुम ने मुझे अपना बनाया।
बाबा! तुमने मुझ पर अपनी अहेतुकी कृपा की है। तुम कितने कृपालु हो! !
- Trans: Dr. T.R.S.
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== Section 4 ==
We all belong to one family -
the Supreme Father is the family head - Ananda Vanii #30
We all belong to one family -
the Supreme Father is the family head - Ananda Vanii #30
“The fact that the fortune of every individual, not only of this earth but of the entire cosmos, has been wreathed together, will have to be admitted one day by people. The spiritual aspirant has to hasten that auspicious moment by pauseless effort, service and propagation of the great Ideology. This alone is the Supreme task for the present humanity.”
Note: The above is one of Baba’s original Ananda Vaniis. These original and true Ananda Vaniis are unique, eternal guidelines that stand as complete discourses in and of themselves. They are unlike Fake Ananda Vaniis which are fabricated by most of the groups - H, B etc.
== Section 5 ==
Links
#1: Meeting with Dada Bha'skara'nanda - Part A
#2: Meeting with Dada Bha'skara'nanda - Part B
Other topics of interest
Links
#1: Meeting with Dada Bha'skara'nanda - Part A
#2: Meeting with Dada Bha'skara'nanda - Part B
Other topics of interest