Baba
This email contains six sections:
1. Posting: Look! Wt eulogizes idol - elephant god
This email contains six sections:
1. Posting: Look! Wt eulogizes idol - elephant god
2. Hindi Quote: रो-रोकर
3. Prout: Fight against professional politicians
4. Bangla Quote: জয়-জয়কার হৰেই
5. Important Teaching: Codes: Wagers, punishment, and forgiveness
6. Links
Namaskar,
Ananda Marga ideology states, “The person is ideating on that stone, or wood, or metal, and what happens? Yadrshii bhávaná yasya siddhir bhavati tádrshii – “A person adopts a body according to their object of ideation.” Their own self is transformed into that entity, the entity which was their object of meditation. Now such people worshipping different forms of Prakrti finally take the form of those entities, and become stone, become wood, become metal. They are called Prakrtiliina. They become one with Prakrti and remain there for an indefinite period. What a durdaeva, I will say! What a painful state of existence!” (1)
Now see here below how one avadhuta is writing about himself in third person and encouraging others to do idol worship and get the blessings of the elephant god - Ganesh. But as Sadguru Baba guides us, idol worship is sinful and this elephant god is just one is mythological, dogmatic deity. So no true avadhuta should ever promote any form of idol worship in any way.
But look here what Dada Karunananda is doing and see how gross it is - as Dada Karunananda posted this to his own Facebook page.
Acharya Karunananda received the KARAM DIAMOND GANESHA photo at .Kanu Asodaria Home, of Amazing Natural Big Diamond. It Featured almost all the parts Closely , Resembling God Ganesha With Outlines of a Trunk , Eyes, Ears and Even Legs . It was mined like as it is the Ganesha idol From Mines. We like to share this RARITY & Nature's blessing with rest of the humanity / world, Please JOIN OUR MISSION. You to make others aware and also get Blessings of Ganesh ji, in this unique diamond form. — with Acharya Karunanandaand Karam Diamond Ganesha in Surat, India. (From Dada Karunananda’s Facebook page)
In addition, Dadaji included this below photo:
So the above is what Dada Karunananda posted to his own Facebook
page whereby he is explicitly promoting and glorifying idol worship.
Now please see Sadguru Baba’s below teachings where He condemns idol worship and exposes the dogma behind the worship of the so-called elephant god - Ganesh.
Do you see how dangerous religious dogma it still is today?
Ananda Marga ideology states, “When Jainism and Buddhism became influential, phallus worship, Shiva worship, Jainism and Buddhism were blended together. Subsequently, a priesthood commenced. After some time many new deities were created, which represented different orders of Jain and Buddhist worship and reflected parochial interests. As soon as parochialism emerged, different kinds of dogma arose – whenever parochialism takes hold, dogma thrives. This was the rudimental cause of religious dogma. Since ordinary people had no alternative but to resort to religious dogma...
“….People were taught that they were poor because they had committed sinful acts in their past lives, and that they were rich because their past deeds were virtuous. Such teachings blocked any revolt against social disparity. Do you see how dangerous religious dogma was, and how dangerous it still is today? If you analyse each and every aspect of life which has been infected by religious dogma, you will find that the advocates of dogma are always motivated by the psychology of exploitation.” (2)
Ananda Marga ideology states, “The patriarch, or gańapati (gańesha), of a kśatriya society was worshipped in those days as a god, and in this worship the head of an elephant, recognized as the greatest animal, would be used as the head of the idol. And in fact this gańapati or gańesha [group leader] figure, after undergoing certain philosophical explanations in those ancient times, evolved into the god Gańesha. Even though society is now vaeshya-dominated, both linga and Gańapati are still commonly worshipped. Many people do not understand or deliberately try to forget that what underlies this form of worship is the primitive social outlook of the kśatriyas.” (3)
Must not indulge in religious dogma
Ananda Marga Caryacarya states, “Not to call a thing what it is, but to call it something else, is known as slander. Therefore those who in the name of the beginningless, endless, formless Brahma worship idols, are indulging in deliberate slander. You must not give indulgence to this type of Mahapápa (great sin).” (4)
Ananda Marga ideology states, “You may participate in all kinds of innocent ceremonies. As, in principle, you do not support the philosophy of those who, in the name of worship of God, indulge in idolatry, do not participate in their ceremonies.” (5)
In the face of all of Guru’s above teachings, Dada Karunananda announced openly on his Facebook page how he advocates idol worship and he is inspiring all to seek out the blessing of Ganesh - the elephant god. This is what Dada K is doing on Facebook for all the world to see.
Not to forget - to read this
Indeed, if Dada K had done this privately - all alone - it would be sinful, but at least he would not have misguided the society. But now it is so much worse. Because with a photo of himself in the Ananda Marga avadhuta uniform and with his avadhuta name he is openly promoting idol worship and glorifying the elephant god. The outcome is very bad. Either naive people will think that really the elephant god is great, or they will think that Ananda Margiis are sheer hypocrites as Ananda Marga scripture condemns idol worship and here is one very senior avadhuta worshiping Ganesh.
As Ananda Margiis, we must never compromise with our ideals. We should not be goody-goodies - we should be keen to outline our principles and stand up for them. But this Dadaji failed to do. He completely forgot his avadhuta oaths, vows, and ideology.
WT conduct rules state, “Avadhuta shall always keep himself engage in the service of Gurudeva with sincerity and devotion, in thought, word, and deed, in subtle and crude spheres, in inner and outer expressions of life.” (6)
Conclusion
Guru Shrii Shrii Anandamurtiji condemns idol worship and says it is terrible sin but this senior avadhuta is disobeying Guru by promoting this outrageous, illogical Hindu dogma. Now it is the duty of every Ananda Margii to condemn this and force Dadaji to remove this dogmatic post from his own Facebook page. Because what Dadaji is doing is promoting propaganda in favour of the dogmatic Hindu deity Ganesh.
Ananda Marga ideology states, “All dogma must be rooted out. You should start a revolution against dogma. But to start a revolution you need courage. So gather that courage and start a revolution against dogma.” (7)
in Him,
Viplava
By the way, one should not forget that when Wts go to non-margiis and those non-margiis offer tea or coffee, then this same Dada Karunananda does not accept their drink. Similarly as an avadhuta he must have the requisite courage not to surrender to idols.
References
1. Ananda Vacanamrtam - 3, Ghosts and Evil Spirits
2. Prout in a Nutshell - 16, Religious Dogma – Excerpt B
3. Human Society - 2, The Kśatriya Age
4. Caryacarya - 2, Sadhana, point #18
5. Caryacarya - 2, Society, point #35
6. 32 Rules for Avadhuta, point #28
7. Prout in a Nutshell - 16, Religious Dogma – Excerpt B
== Section 2: Hindi Quote ==
रो-रोकर
“तो, और घबड़ाने की बात नहीं है इसलिए भी कि—परमात्मा सामग्रिक रूप से सबके साथ हैं | और वैयष्टिक रूप से हर जीव के साथ हैं | कोई भी किसी भी time में, किसी भी वक्त, किसी भी समय; ऐसा मनुष्य के जीवन में, कोई भी दुःसमय नहीं आ सकता है, जिस वक्त मनुष्य महसूस कर सकते हैं कि—वे अकेले हैं; he is never alone | कभी भी वे [जीव] अकेले नहीं हैं | वे तुम्हारे साथ दुःख में भी हैं, सुख में भी हैं | बात है कि तुम अपनी बुद्धूपनी के कारण सुख के time में उनको भूल जाते हो; और दुःख के time में रो-रोकर आकाश फटाते हो, चिल्लाते हो; यही करते हो | किन्तु बात सो नहीं है, वे हमेशा तुम्हारे साथ हैं | परमात्मा हँसते हैं—जब [सुख] के time में तुम कहते हो, "अरे, परमात्मा जहाँ हैं रहने दो |" और दुःख के time क्या करते हो ? अपनी छाती पीटते हो | तो उस वक्त भी वे हँसते हैं—"अरे, तुम दो दिन पहले बोल रहे थे, 'जहाँ हैं वहाँ रहने दो' और अब छाती पीट रहे हो, कि होलइ गे, कि होतइ गे |" अहिं ना ?*”
[यह प्रवचन-अंश, बाबा के कैसेट से सीधे लिखा गया है । बाबा का यह असली प्रवचन, अमृतोपदेश है। आनन्दमार्ग हिन्दी पुस्तकों में छपे प्रवचन तो नक़ली प्रवचन हैं, असली नहीं हैं -- बंगालीकरण (बँगलाइजेसन) के तहत उनकी बर्बादी की गई] (1)
Reference
1. अप्रकाशित, हिन्दी, MGD, September 4, 1978 Patna
Prout philosophy states, “Most political leaders are either physical or intellectual criminals. Common human beings have to be protected from the clutches of these criminals. Proutists have to fight against today’s party politics. Proutists are not against politics or political science, but they have to fight against professional politicians. Only Sadvipras have the right to engage in politics; other people should be swept out from the field of politics. Political leaders depend on physical power. Though they talk of non-violence, they are guarded by the police force. Physical power is the crudest manifestation of energy. Sadvipras will use intuitional power – intellectual and physical power will work as their slaves, to be used according to the indications of intuitional power. It therefore goes without saying that a Sadvipra is stronger than a political leader.” (1)
Reference
1. Talks on Prout
জয়-জয়কার হৰেই
“আর এই তান্ত্রিক cult, এই যে সাধনা, তান্ত্রিক cult, আর তাণ্ডব, এই দুটোতে যা হ’ল, তা তো হ’লই | এবং তার সঙ্গে আরও যোগ করে দেওয়া হ’ল, সোনায় সুহাগা করে দেওয়া হ’ল কি ? না, পাঞ্চজন্য আর সদাব্রত | অর্থাৎ তোমাদের যে তান্ত্রিক সাধনা---... এই যে চারটে জিনিস, এ মানুষকে উপরে তোলার পক্ষে প্রয়োজনের চেয়েও ৰেশী ৰলতে পার | সুতরাং এই চারটে জিনিসের কঠোর থাকলে, আর ভাবৰার কি আছে | মানুষের মানুষ হিসাৰে প্রতিষ্ঠা হৰেই | জয়-জয়কার হৰেই | এবং সেই মানুষের দ্বারা বিশ্ব মানবের কল্যাণ হতেই হৰে |” (1)
Reference
1. MGD, 3 January 1982 Ananda Nagar
Caryacarya states, "The habit of making wagers is extremely undesirable. You must avoid lotteries and gambling." (1)
Caryacarya states, "Prerequisites for shásti:
a) Before punishing a person you should consider whether you love him/her or not. You do not have the moral right to punish one whom you do not love.
b) Punishment should be meted out to reform and not to cause suffering.
c) The quantum of punishment must not exceed the quantum of love.
d) If some innocent person is pained by any of your actions, then without considering whether he/she is your superior or inferior, you should sincerely seek his/her forgiveness; this will only enhance your prestige." (2)
References
1. Caryarcarya, part 2, Society, point #38
2. Caryarcarya, part 2, Society, point #39
3. Prout: Fight against professional politicians
4. Bangla Quote: জয়-জয়কার হৰেই
5. Important Teaching: Codes: Wagers, punishment, and forgiveness
6. Links
Look! Wt eulogizes idol
- elephant god
Namaskar,
Ananda Marga ideology states, “The person is ideating on that stone, or wood, or metal, and what happens? Yadrshii bhávaná yasya siddhir bhavati tádrshii – “A person adopts a body according to their object of ideation.” Their own self is transformed into that entity, the entity which was their object of meditation. Now such people worshipping different forms of Prakrti finally take the form of those entities, and become stone, become wood, become metal. They are called Prakrtiliina. They become one with Prakrti and remain there for an indefinite period. What a durdaeva, I will say! What a painful state of existence!” (1)
Now see here below how one avadhuta is writing about himself in third person and encouraging others to do idol worship and get the blessings of the elephant god - Ganesh. But as Sadguru Baba guides us, idol worship is sinful and this elephant god is just one is mythological, dogmatic deity. So no true avadhuta should ever promote any form of idol worship in any way.
But look here what Dada Karunananda is doing and see how gross it is - as Dada Karunananda posted this to his own Facebook page.
Acharya Karunananda received the KARAM DIAMOND GANESHA photo at .Kanu Asodaria Home, of Amazing Natural Big Diamond. It Featured almost all the parts Closely , Resembling God Ganesha With Outlines of a Trunk , Eyes, Ears and Even Legs . It was mined like as it is the Ganesha idol From Mines. We like to share this RARITY & Nature's blessing with rest of the humanity / world, Please JOIN OUR MISSION. You to make others aware and also get Blessings of Ganesh ji, in this unique diamond form. — with Acharya Karunanandaand Karam Diamond Ganesha in Surat, India. (From Dada Karunananda’s Facebook page)
In addition, Dadaji included this below photo:
Now please see Sadguru Baba’s below teachings where He condemns idol worship and exposes the dogma behind the worship of the so-called elephant god - Ganesh.
Do you see how dangerous religious dogma it still is today?
Ananda Marga ideology states, “When Jainism and Buddhism became influential, phallus worship, Shiva worship, Jainism and Buddhism were blended together. Subsequently, a priesthood commenced. After some time many new deities were created, which represented different orders of Jain and Buddhist worship and reflected parochial interests. As soon as parochialism emerged, different kinds of dogma arose – whenever parochialism takes hold, dogma thrives. This was the rudimental cause of religious dogma. Since ordinary people had no alternative but to resort to religious dogma...
“….People were taught that they were poor because they had committed sinful acts in their past lives, and that they were rich because their past deeds were virtuous. Such teachings blocked any revolt against social disparity. Do you see how dangerous religious dogma was, and how dangerous it still is today? If you analyse each and every aspect of life which has been infected by religious dogma, you will find that the advocates of dogma are always motivated by the psychology of exploitation.” (2)
Ananda Marga ideology states, “The patriarch, or gańapati (gańesha), of a kśatriya society was worshipped in those days as a god, and in this worship the head of an elephant, recognized as the greatest animal, would be used as the head of the idol. And in fact this gańapati or gańesha [group leader] figure, after undergoing certain philosophical explanations in those ancient times, evolved into the god Gańesha. Even though society is now vaeshya-dominated, both linga and Gańapati are still commonly worshipped. Many people do not understand or deliberately try to forget that what underlies this form of worship is the primitive social outlook of the kśatriyas.” (3)
Must not indulge in religious dogma
Ananda Marga Caryacarya states, “Not to call a thing what it is, but to call it something else, is known as slander. Therefore those who in the name of the beginningless, endless, formless Brahma worship idols, are indulging in deliberate slander. You must not give indulgence to this type of Mahapápa (great sin).” (4)
Ananda Marga ideology states, “You may participate in all kinds of innocent ceremonies. As, in principle, you do not support the philosophy of those who, in the name of worship of God, indulge in idolatry, do not participate in their ceremonies.” (5)
In the face of all of Guru’s above teachings, Dada Karunananda announced openly on his Facebook page how he advocates idol worship and he is inspiring all to seek out the blessing of Ganesh - the elephant god. This is what Dada K is doing on Facebook for all the world to see.
Not to forget - to read this
Indeed, if Dada K had done this privately - all alone - it would be sinful, but at least he would not have misguided the society. But now it is so much worse. Because with a photo of himself in the Ananda Marga avadhuta uniform and with his avadhuta name he is openly promoting idol worship and glorifying the elephant god. The outcome is very bad. Either naive people will think that really the elephant god is great, or they will think that Ananda Margiis are sheer hypocrites as Ananda Marga scripture condemns idol worship and here is one very senior avadhuta worshiping Ganesh.
As Ananda Margiis, we must never compromise with our ideals. We should not be goody-goodies - we should be keen to outline our principles and stand up for them. But this Dadaji failed to do. He completely forgot his avadhuta oaths, vows, and ideology.
WT conduct rules state, “Avadhuta shall always keep himself engage in the service of Gurudeva with sincerity and devotion, in thought, word, and deed, in subtle and crude spheres, in inner and outer expressions of life.” (6)
Conclusion
Guru Shrii Shrii Anandamurtiji condemns idol worship and says it is terrible sin but this senior avadhuta is disobeying Guru by promoting this outrageous, illogical Hindu dogma. Now it is the duty of every Ananda Margii to condemn this and force Dadaji to remove this dogmatic post from his own Facebook page. Because what Dadaji is doing is promoting propaganda in favour of the dogmatic Hindu deity Ganesh.
Ananda Marga ideology states, “All dogma must be rooted out. You should start a revolution against dogma. But to start a revolution you need courage. So gather that courage and start a revolution against dogma.” (7)
in Him,
Viplava
By the way, one should not forget that when Wts go to non-margiis and those non-margiis offer tea or coffee, then this same Dada Karunananda does not accept their drink. Similarly as an avadhuta he must have the requisite courage not to surrender to idols.
References
1. Ananda Vacanamrtam - 3, Ghosts and Evil Spirits
2. Prout in a Nutshell - 16, Religious Dogma – Excerpt B
3. Human Society - 2, The Kśatriya Age
4. Caryacarya - 2, Sadhana, point #18
5. Caryacarya - 2, Society, point #35
6. 32 Rules for Avadhuta, point #28
7. Prout in a Nutshell - 16, Religious Dogma – Excerpt B
== Section 2: Hindi Quote ==
रो-रोकर
“तो, और घबड़ाने की बात नहीं है इसलिए भी कि—परमात्मा सामग्रिक रूप से सबके साथ हैं | और वैयष्टिक रूप से हर जीव के साथ हैं | कोई भी किसी भी time में, किसी भी वक्त, किसी भी समय; ऐसा मनुष्य के जीवन में, कोई भी दुःसमय नहीं आ सकता है, जिस वक्त मनुष्य महसूस कर सकते हैं कि—वे अकेले हैं; he is never alone | कभी भी वे [जीव] अकेले नहीं हैं | वे तुम्हारे साथ दुःख में भी हैं, सुख में भी हैं | बात है कि तुम अपनी बुद्धूपनी के कारण सुख के time में उनको भूल जाते हो; और दुःख के time में रो-रोकर आकाश फटाते हो, चिल्लाते हो; यही करते हो | किन्तु बात सो नहीं है, वे हमेशा तुम्हारे साथ हैं | परमात्मा हँसते हैं—जब [सुख] के time में तुम कहते हो, "अरे, परमात्मा जहाँ हैं रहने दो |" और दुःख के time क्या करते हो ? अपनी छाती पीटते हो | तो उस वक्त भी वे हँसते हैं—"अरे, तुम दो दिन पहले बोल रहे थे, 'जहाँ हैं वहाँ रहने दो' और अब छाती पीट रहे हो, कि होलइ गे, कि होतइ गे |" अहिं ना ?*”
[यह प्रवचन-अंश, बाबा के कैसेट से सीधे लिखा गया है । बाबा का यह असली प्रवचन, अमृतोपदेश है। आनन्दमार्ग हिन्दी पुस्तकों में छपे प्रवचन तो नक़ली प्रवचन हैं, असली नहीं हैं -- बंगालीकरण (बँगलाइजेसन) के तहत उनकी बर्बादी की गई] (1)
Reference
1. अप्रकाशित, हिन्दी, MGD, September 4, 1978 Patna
== Section 3:
Prout ==
Why fight against professional politicians
Why fight against professional politicians
Prout philosophy states, “Most political leaders are either physical or intellectual criminals. Common human beings have to be protected from the clutches of these criminals. Proutists have to fight against today’s party politics. Proutists are not against politics or political science, but they have to fight against professional politicians. Only Sadvipras have the right to engage in politics; other people should be swept out from the field of politics. Political leaders depend on physical power. Though they talk of non-violence, they are guarded by the police force. Physical power is the crudest manifestation of energy. Sadvipras will use intuitional power – intellectual and physical power will work as their slaves, to be used according to the indications of intuitional power. It therefore goes without saying that a Sadvipra is stronger than a political leader.” (1)
Reference
1. Talks on Prout
== Section 4:
Bangla Quote ==
জয়-জয়কার হৰেই
“আর এই তান্ত্রিক cult, এই যে সাধনা, তান্ত্রিক cult, আর তাণ্ডব, এই দুটোতে যা হ’ল, তা তো হ’লই | এবং তার সঙ্গে আরও যোগ করে দেওয়া হ’ল, সোনায় সুহাগা করে দেওয়া হ’ল কি ? না, পাঞ্চজন্য আর সদাব্রত | অর্থাৎ তোমাদের যে তান্ত্রিক সাধনা---... এই যে চারটে জিনিস, এ মানুষকে উপরে তোলার পক্ষে প্রয়োজনের চেয়েও ৰেশী ৰলতে পার | সুতরাং এই চারটে জিনিসের কঠোর থাকলে, আর ভাবৰার কি আছে | মানুষের মানুষ হিসাৰে প্রতিষ্ঠা হৰেই | জয়-জয়কার হৰেই | এবং সেই মানুষের দ্বারা বিশ্ব মানবের কল্যাণ হতেই হৰে |” (1)
Reference
1. MGD, 3 January 1982 Ananda Nagar
== Section 5:
Important Teaching ==
Codes: Wagers, punishment, and forgiveness
Caryacarya states, "The habit of making wagers is extremely undesirable. You must avoid lotteries and gambling." (1)
Caryacarya states, "Prerequisites for shásti:
a) Before punishing a person you should consider whether you love him/her or not. You do not have the moral right to punish one whom you do not love.
b) Punishment should be meted out to reform and not to cause suffering.
c) The quantum of punishment must not exceed the quantum of love.
d) If some innocent person is pained by any of your actions, then without considering whether he/she is your superior or inferior, you should sincerely seek his/her forgiveness; this will only enhance your prestige." (2)
References
1. Caryarcarya, part 2, Society, point #38
2. Caryarcarya, part 2, Society, point #39
== Section 6:
Links ==