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Tuesday, March 3, 2015

Re: PP Dada’s action is uncivilized?

Baba

Re: PP Dada’s action is uncivilized?

Namaskar,
One sincere and concerned reader has complained that this below photo has been fabricated and that someone took it from a different angle in order to malign respected PP Dada’s status.



The fact of the matter is that Dada Rudrananda iii ordered his purodha stooges to take the above photo and propagate it publicly on the AMPS Central website etc. Why did they do so? The intention was to jack up PP Dada’s image. And still this above photo is sitting on the AMPS Central website. Anybody can go and see it - this is the plain truth. See the link appended below in note 1.

There should not be any phobia or paranoia that this type of photo was the work of some outside enemy etc. This is the work of Dada Rudrananda and his purodha stooges.


Following is Complaint by Margii Brother

Here following is the series of letters written by one margii reader who objected to the way this photo was taken.

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(I) On 11 Nov 14, one respected margii reader wrote:

U people can judge everything from this photo taken from a weird angle. I hope u know fundamentals of physics. I have all the photos of tatanagar DMS. Don't misguide margiis.


(II) Then on 23 Feb 2015, the margii brother again addressed this issue:

Namaskar

Earlier also, I had written about the same mistake made by you in interpreting, just by looking at the photo. In reply, I received a mail from you that we will get back to you but no one did.
I am not against constructive criticism but look at the photo. It is taken from below the stage area. Apply a little bit of physics and a lot of brain, you would get the answer. If still u want to criticize, do it on some worthy subject or case. I will applaud and stand with you on that.
Ask yourself, was it OK.



(III) Finally, on 03 Mar 2015, the margii reader again wrote:

namaskar

no one has reverted to the concerns raised in my earlier mail, except for your last confirmation mail.
kindly ask brother vijay to respond to the objection raised by me.
thanks



Note: That concludes the words by the margii brother.

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Now here again I, Vijay, am writing...


If your own grandfather started drinking liquor heavily

then you will be worried

Brother, your logic is not working here. Nobody has the negative agenda to rub PP Dada’s & Central Dadas’ noses in the mud. I have great admiration for central workers and PP Dada.

Just like if your own grandfather started drinking liquor heavily then you will be worried. In the same way, I am worried by seeing the condition of in-charge dadas and how they present Baba in public.

I have given the link appended below - see for yourself.


Was done by Dada Rudrananda’s stooges

Those in-charges themselves snapped the photo and put it up on their AMPS central website / social media. In that case AMPS central is to blame. They wanted to publicise this to the whole world: That Baba has passed away so his status is lower than that of PP Dada. That is why they have PP Dada sitting on a higher seat. Their action shows this - what further proof is needed. For your confirmation click on the link appended below to view the photo on their AMPS central site. This work of taking the photo and putting it on the website was not done by some third party like communists; rather this was done by Dada R’s stooges.


Mentality is pathetic and shameful

Stooges of Rudrananda jii (AMPS central) made the photo with the aim to present Baba’s status lower than PP’s status because Dada Rudrananda jii, with his ulterior motive, wants to show that Baba has passed away and now PP Dada is sitting on throne. So PP Dada is the authority of divine power so Rudrananda can rule from behind the scene.

They are just emulating what the various dogmatic Hindu priests and gurus do. Dada Rudrananda jii wants to convince whole world about the glory of the new leader: PP Dada. Those in Centre want to project PP Dada’s status as being higher than Baba’s status. So AMPS central is showing how they do not give respect to Guru Shrii Shrii Anandamurtiji because He has passed away. This type of mentality is pathetic and shameful.

That was was explained in my letter of 23 Feb 2015 - titled “PP Dada’s action is uncivilised?” Please find this appended below.

Remember, all will see the concerned photo and form the wrong impression about Baba. And these in-charge Dadas of AMPS central are the ones showing the photo. It is their picture - go and see the link here below.


Kindly write in the same tone to Dada Rudrananda jii

Now the point have been proven that I - Vijay - did not take the photo and put it up on the AM Central website / Facebook page etc. This was done by central purodhas on Rudrananda jii’s order. So just as you wrote me and complained, kindly write in the same tone to Dada Rudrananda jii and challenge him why he did this. Furthermore request him to remove the photo from all AM Central websites, Facebook pages and other sectorial blogs. And I request you to carbon copy me on your letter to Dada Rudrananda jii.

Thank you again for writing.

at His lotus feet,
Vijay


Note 1: Link to see the photo on their Facebook page


Although it is highly unlikely, if by this link you do not get anything then please let us know; it means they have taken it down. As proof, I have taken a desktop images of their site and will send you that entire webpage.


Note 2: Not an isolated occurrence

Rudrananda jii’s  “yes-men” put many such photos on various websites and throughout central and sectorial newsletters and magazines. So this is not an isolated case. They have made so many photos to undermine Baba. This has been going on all over the web. Those who have eyes can see. Those who care about reverence to Baba have seen this - there is nothing hidden or new here.


Note 3: My earlier letter on this topic

Here below is my  letter which I wrote on  23 Feb 2015.


PP Dada’s action is uncivilised?

“We may call those human acts and behaviours “civilized” that give evidence of this discriminative judgement, in a great measure.” (1)

According to Baba’s above teaching, any action which is irrational and illogical - not supported by reasoning - is uncivilised. Please see the frame of the below photo. Notice how thee  frame of Baba’s photo on the white cot is approximately 1 foot below PP Dada’s blue cot. The question is whether PP Dada’s action of sitting 1 foot above Guru’s white cot is rational or not. Remember to look at the lower frame of Baba’s photo.


Disciple must have reverence for the guru

“Trtiiyaḿ gurupújanam. I must have reverence for the guru. What is the guru? Gu means “darkness”, that is, darkness in the psycho-spiritual sphere. And ru means “dispelling agent”. That is, he who dispels darkness from my psychic and spiritual body is the guru. Gu means “darkness”, ru means “dispeller”. “Trtiiyaḿ gurupújanam. That is, you must have respect for the guru.” (2)

Baba’s photo is placed on the cot with the white sheet. Now compare the level of the white cot with the height of PP Dada’s blue cot. The white cot is approx 1 foot lower than the blue cot. The conclusion is that the frame of Baba’s photo is lower than PP Dada’s feet.

Again, please pay attention to the bottom edge of the photo frame on the white cot as it is one foot lower than where PP Dada is seated.




​The above action of PP dada is not supported by logic and reasoning. A sense of rationality is not being used. And according to tantric code of discipline, a disciple should sit at the feet of Guru - not at head. Disciples always gives respect and reverence to his Guru. As a disciple of Lord Shrii Shrii Anandamurtij, PP Dada should have done this.

If any follower does not do this then he is not a true disciple - just worthless. The situation is just like that of a coloured jackal.

That is why this particular action is uncivilised. Although he is the PP Dada of the H group, it does not matter - PP Dada’s action is uncivilised. In other avenues of life this PP Dada  may be civilised, but on this specific act he is not civilised. The above is just one example. The general rule is that if any behaviour is not supported by rationality then that given act is uncivilised.

The whole host of uncivilised things PP Dada does will be discussed in other letters.

in Him,
Vijay


References
1. AFPS-6, Civilization, Science and Spiritual Progress
2. AV-12, Shiva's Seven Secrets


Note 4: Why name missing

The name of the margii brother, who lodged these complaints, has intentionally been withheld for reasons of privacy; but if he prefers his name can be made public tomorrow - if he wishes.

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