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Namaskar,
Dada Rudrananda delivered a philosophical talk to margiis at the jagrti. To impress his audience, Rudrananda started using very unusual philosophical terminology like trikon’a, triangle, kala’, na’d, bindhu, pra’nava, omnkara, tantra shastra, shabda-Brahma etc. Sorry to say however, that Dadaji bungled the use and meaning of these philosophical concepts.
Extravaganza of Dada R
Then he invented some new words like para’-va’k, pashyanti-va’k, raod’ri-va’k. These three terms are not part of Ananda Marga ideology. Either they are Dada’s own creation or he lifted them from avidya tantric books. All this was done to impress margiis that what he knows nobody knows. And to some degree he is correct, because when he is just spontaneously inventing his own garbage philosophy, then how could anyone else know about this. In this way he was trying to befool others and pump up his own image.
Not only that, Dada was referencing abstract terms from Einstein’s philosophy - and he messed up here also; and that we will talk about at a future time.
Suffice to say here that Dada R was trying to dissuade margiis from talking about organisational problems like groupism etc, and focus only on shravan, manan, nididhyasana.
Then he issued this warning: If you listen to negative talk about the organisation then you will fall asleep in sadhana. Then he gave this bogus justification. Dada R invented his own philosophy and told that
Dada Rudranandaji says, “During sadhana the mind reaches a subconscious state. And in that same subconscious mind, one sleeps also. So what is the difference between sleep and sadhana - very little. In sleep one does not repeat the ista mantra, and in sadhana one repeats their ista mantra. But in both sleep and sadhana the mind is in the same place - i.e. subconscious mind.” (Translation of Dada R’s Hindi talk)
Comment: Both of Dada Rudranandaji’s above two points are wrong.
(a) What he is telling about sadhana is wrong and that will be discussed in the future.
(b) And what Dadaji is telling about sleep is also wrong and that is the focus of this letter.
Dada R’s delirium about the concept of sleep and state of mind
So here is Dadaji’s confusion: Dada R is wrongly telling that when sleeping the subconscious mind is active. But this is incorrect.
Now please read here below Baba’s teaching:
Ananda Marga ideology guides us, “During sleep [and during senselessness], only the unconscious mind remains active.” (Ananda Sutram, 1-24)
That means, according Sadguru Baba’s teachings of Ananda Marga ideology, in the sleep state the mind is not in the state that Rudrananda says. The mind is in a different state as per Guru’s above guideline in Ananda Sutram.
So Dada R is completely confused and backwards on this point.
What is the cause of his confusion? Either Rudrananda is losing his cognitive faculties and he is drifting towards dementia, or from the very outset he does not understand Ananda Marga ideology. And this is only natural because where does he have the time to study Guru’s teachings when he (Rudrananda) is cent-per-cent involved in his groupist activities.
In either case why is he misleading margiis. Dada R’s stooges should warn him about his possible dementia or alzheimer's disease, and that best is if Dada R keeps his mouth shut and does not talk among margiis so his ignorance and confusion are concealed - and he can maintain his prestige.
Conclusion
Here again is the essence of Rudrananda’s deep confusion.
Dada R says that the subconscious mind is active during sleep. But that is wrong
In Ananda Sutram, Baba says that the subconscious mind is inactive and does not function during sleep. Only the unconscious mind is active.
Ananda Marga ideology guides us, “During sleep [and during senselessness], only the unconscious mind remains active. The opinion that the state of sleep is the state of the sense of vacuity is unacceptable to a subtle philosophical judgement, because at that time the works of both the conscious and the subconscious minds are done by the unconscious mind.” (Ananda Sutram, 1-24)
Namaskar,
in Him,
Divyacaksu
Note 1: In his class Dada R also told false things about pra’nava and omnkara and that will be discussed in future letters.
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Example of Dada R’s ignorance:
Messed up his philosophy class
Messed up his philosophy class
Namaskar,
Dada Rudrananda delivered a philosophical talk to margiis at the jagrti. To impress his audience, Rudrananda started using very unusual philosophical terminology like trikon’a, triangle, kala’, na’d, bindhu, pra’nava, omnkara, tantra shastra, shabda-Brahma etc. Sorry to say however, that Dadaji bungled the use and meaning of these philosophical concepts.
Extravaganza of Dada R
Then he invented some new words like para’-va’k, pashyanti-va’k, raod’ri-va’k. These three terms are not part of Ananda Marga ideology. Either they are Dada’s own creation or he lifted them from avidya tantric books. All this was done to impress margiis that what he knows nobody knows. And to some degree he is correct, because when he is just spontaneously inventing his own garbage philosophy, then how could anyone else know about this. In this way he was trying to befool others and pump up his own image.
Not only that, Dada was referencing abstract terms from Einstein’s philosophy - and he messed up here also; and that we will talk about at a future time.
Suffice to say here that Dada R was trying to dissuade margiis from talking about organisational problems like groupism etc, and focus only on shravan, manan, nididhyasana.
Then he issued this warning: If you listen to negative talk about the organisation then you will fall asleep in sadhana. Then he gave this bogus justification. Dada R invented his own philosophy and told that
Dada Rudranandaji says, “During sadhana the mind reaches a subconscious state. And in that same subconscious mind, one sleeps also. So what is the difference between sleep and sadhana - very little. In sleep one does not repeat the ista mantra, and in sadhana one repeats their ista mantra. But in both sleep and sadhana the mind is in the same place - i.e. subconscious mind.” (Translation of Dada R’s Hindi talk)
Comment: Both of Dada Rudranandaji’s above two points are wrong.
(a) What he is telling about sadhana is wrong and that will be discussed in the future.
(b) And what Dadaji is telling about sleep is also wrong and that is the focus of this letter.
Dada R’s delirium about the concept of sleep and state of mind
So here is Dadaji’s confusion: Dada R is wrongly telling that when sleeping the subconscious mind is active. But this is incorrect.
Now please read here below Baba’s teaching:
Ananda Marga ideology guides us, “During sleep [and during senselessness], only the unconscious mind remains active.” (Ananda Sutram, 1-24)
That means, according Sadguru Baba’s teachings of Ananda Marga ideology, in the sleep state the mind is not in the state that Rudrananda says. The mind is in a different state as per Guru’s above guideline in Ananda Sutram.
So Dada R is completely confused and backwards on this point.
What is the cause of his confusion? Either Rudrananda is losing his cognitive faculties and he is drifting towards dementia, or from the very outset he does not understand Ananda Marga ideology. And this is only natural because where does he have the time to study Guru’s teachings when he (Rudrananda) is cent-per-cent involved in his groupist activities.
In either case why is he misleading margiis. Dada R’s stooges should warn him about his possible dementia or alzheimer's disease, and that best is if Dada R keeps his mouth shut and does not talk among margiis so his ignorance and confusion are concealed - and he can maintain his prestige.
Conclusion
Here again is the essence of Rudrananda’s deep confusion.
Dada R says that the subconscious mind is active during sleep. But that is wrong
In Ananda Sutram, Baba says that the subconscious mind is inactive and does not function during sleep. Only the unconscious mind is active.
Ananda Marga ideology guides us, “During sleep [and during senselessness], only the unconscious mind remains active. The opinion that the state of sleep is the state of the sense of vacuity is unacceptable to a subtle philosophical judgement, because at that time the works of both the conscious and the subconscious minds are done by the unconscious mind.” (Ananda Sutram, 1-24)
Namaskar,
in Him,
Divyacaksu
Note 1: In his class Dada R also told false things about pra’nava and omnkara and that will be discussed in future letters.
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