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Sunday, December 3, 2017

Pollution in NKS book

Baba

Pollution in NKS book
Namaskar,

See how the red-coloured line in the below quote goes against a proven scientific theory. And we know that everything Baba says is in strict concert with modern science.
Here below is a paragraph as it appears in the English edition of Namami Krsnasundaram. And the below red-coloured line is most certainly a mistake by the Publishing Dept.

In Namami Krsnasundaram, it is printed as: "The human mind moves in a particular flow according to its inherent saḿskáras. If it finds congenial vibrations in all directions, vibrations with greater wavelengths than its own, then its own mental vibrations of lesser wavelength become straightened, attaining greater wavelengths. This is anukúlavedaniiyam, and the vedaná (in Bengali vedaná means “pain”, but in Sanskrit it means anubhúti [feeling]) that arises in an environment of longer waves is termed sukha; where the vedaná is uncongenial, it is known as klesha [affliction] or duhkha. The wavelengths of uncongenial vibrations are shorter than those of the congenial vibrations. Aesthetic science implies that psychic waves coming in contact with vibrations of greater frequency attain a greater wavelength, and we may say, Anukúlavedaniiyaḿ sukham [“A congenial mental feeling is called happiness”]. (1)

The first half of the above quote is contradictory to the second half because of the distortion. To correct this problem we consulted the original audio files and we found that the above red-coloured line is not what Baba spoke. Please continue reading to see what Baba actually said and how the publications dept inserted the wrong line which carried the wrong meaning.

Original Bangla transcription

In the original Bengali discourse, Baba did not use the word "frequency." Here is a transcription of His original discourse in Bengali.

nandan vijianat'a' hocche, je diirghatar taranger samshparshe ese jakhan nijer ma'nas dha'ra'o diirgha'it hoye ja'cche ta'ke bolii anukúlavedaniiyaḿ sukham.

Now let's pursue the English translation of this line in a step-by-step fashion. First here is a phrase-wise English translation of the original Bengali.

Aesthetic science is - coming in contact with longer waves - when one's mental waves also become longer - that we call anukúlavedaniiyaḿ sukham.

Second is line meaning in English of this passage.

Aesthetic science means coming in contact with longer waves, then one's own mental flow becomes longer. We call that anukúlavedaniiyaḿ sukham.

Finally here is the refined version of that line.

Aesthetic science implies that when psychic waves come in contact with longer waves, then one's own mental flow becomes longer. We call that anukúlavedaniiyaḿ sukham.

Thus there no place for the term "frequency" in this translation.

Corrected paragraph

Below is how the paragraph reads with the insertion of the updated text, i.e. a proper translation of what Baba actually spoke.

"The human mind moves in a particular flow according to its inherent saḿskáras. If it finds congenial vibrations in all directions, vibrations with greater wavelengths than its own, then its own mental vibrations of lesser wavelength become straightened, attaining greater wavelengths. This is anukúlavedaniiyam, and the vedaná (in Bengali vedaná means “pain”, but in Sanskrit it means anubhúti [feeling]) that arises in an environment of longer waves is termed sukha; where the vedaná is uncongenial, it is known as klesha [affliction] or duhkha. The wavelengths of uncongenial vibrations are shorter than those of the congenial vibrations. Aesthetic science implies that when psychic waves come in contact with longer waves, then one's own mental flow becomes longer. We call that anukúlavedaniiyaḿ sukham. [“A congenial mental feeling is called happiness”].

The above paragraph should be placed in the English edition of Namami Krsnasundaram.

Everything Sadguru Baba teaches is in accordance with natural law and scientific principles. And now with the insertion of the correct line in the above paragraph, it is very clear Baba's guideline from His book Namami Krsnasundaram is in concert with the scientific law that frequency and wavelength have an inverse relationship.

Actually in that passage, Baba is not talking about frequency. Only the Publishers wrongly inserted that term thereby rendering the passage unscientific.

What Baba is really saying is that as shorter psychic waves comes in contact with longer psychic waves, then one's mental flow becomes longer, and that is a state of happiness.

Conclusion

The aforementioned error / distortion needs to be corrected at the earliest. Baba's published discourse should reflect what He actually spoke and not project unscientific ideas that He Himself never spoke.

Ananda Marga philosophy says, "The scriptures containing spiritual injunctions must be totally flawless." (2)

So it is a shame that those in Publications could not manage this. Please forward this to the Tiljala Publications Dept.

In Him,
Ashish

Scientific law

It is an elementary principle of physics that frequency and wavelength are reciprocal to each other, i.e. wavelength decreases with the corresponding increase in frequency and vice versa. And frequency is the number of vibrations per second. And the mathematical relation is given by ( ν α 1/ λ) where ν indicates frequency and λ indicates wavelength.

The following graphic is helpful in understanding the relationship between frequency and wavelenth.



As is transcription of relevant section of Namami Krsnasundaram

“না, নিজের সাংস্কারিক তরঙ্গ থেকে হ্রস্বতর | তো, নন্দনবিজ্ঞানটা হচ্ছে যে দীর্ঘতর তরঙ্গের সংস্পর্শে এসে যখন নিজের মানসধারাও দীর্ঘায়িত হয়ে যাচ্ছে, তাকে ৰলি 'অনুকূলবেদনীয়ং সুখম্‌' | আর উল্টোটা হলে ৰলি |”

~ In-depth study ~

TP wrote: ….Aesthetic science implies that psychic waves coming in contact with vibrations of greater frequency attain a greater wavelength...

The above bold, red coloured line in purple does not make any sense; it goes against basic scientific foundations and formulas. It is well established that the relationship between frequency and wavelengths is inverse. That means, as frequency increases then wavelengths decreases, and vice-versa. But that is not what is expressed in the cited discourse.

Anti-scientific things in NKS: Distortion by TP

Here below is the explanation for why the above red line is false.

When anything is vibrated to and fro it creates a wave in the environment with different curvatures in it. If the wave contains more curvatures we say it's wavelength is shorter as their curvatures are narrow. But if the curvatures are less and broad then it is treated as a higher wavelength. Hence to create higher wavelength in a wave less vibrations per second (i.e. low frequency) are needed. According to philosophy Cosmic Mind, has zero frequency hence emanates waves of infinite wave length, i.e. no curvature, or it is like a straight line. Whereas our unit mind vibrates ceaselessly all the 24 hours and therefore has a higher frequency, emanating waves of lower wavelength, i.e. of more curvatures. One can identify the Cosmic Mind if they are able to minimize their frequency of mind and lessen the narrowness of the waves coming out of it. As soon as the curvature of the unit mind changes into a straight line it tries to maintain parallelism with the Cosmic Mind and finally comes in resonance. In this way the identification with the divine is purely a scientific phenomenon.

1. Baba's discourses are scientific.
2. Ananda Marga is not a religion and irrational; fanciful tales are not included in AM shastra as with the religions.
3. anything unscientific in our AM discourses is the fault of the publishers.

This must be checked, corrected, and updated at the earliest. Otherwise, members of the scientific community and scholars will wrongly  conclude that the spiritual teachings of Ananda Marga are unscientific. This issue demands our attention and those in Tiljala should be urged to look into this matter.

It is an elementary principle of physics that frequency and wavelength are reciprocal to each other, i.e. wavelength decreases with the corresponding increase in frequency and vice versa. And frequency is the number of vibrations per second. And the mathematical relation is given by ( ν α 1/ λ) where ν indicates frequency and λ indicates wavelength.
Namaskar,
In Him,
Dr. T.R. Sukul

References
1. Namami Krsnasundaram (NKS), Parthasarathi Krsna and Aesthetic Science
2. Namah Shivaya Shantaya, Disc: 14


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