Baba
This email contains four sections:
1. Posting: Delirium of Dada Vandanananda
2. Comment: Re: Prout - which language is best
3. Knowing oneself is the real knowledge - Ananda Vanii
4. Links
Namaskar,
Recently Dada Vandanananda made a peculiar proclamation on one of the public forums. Dada’s statement is even more confounding given that he himself is an avadhuta. Before seeing exactly what Dada Vandanananda wrote, let us examine Guru’s teachings.
For a sannyásii (renunciant) it is imperative to fast
Here below is a directive given by Sadguru Baba in Caryacarya. Pay particular attention to the term highlighted in yellow - i.e. sannyasii.
Ananda Marga philosophy states, “It is imperative to fast without water on ekádashii (eleventh day after full moon and new moon). In addition, if desired, a fast can be observed on two more days of the month, namely púrńimá (full moon) and amávasyá (new moon). For a sannyásii (renunciant) it is imperative to fast invariably on both ekádashiis, púrńimá and amávasyá.” (1)
There are a few takeaways from the above teaching:
#1: Baba is directly addressing Ananda Margiis - i.e. family margiis and Wts - because the above guideline is from Caryacarya. Thus Baba is not addressing any other other community of people, i.e. non-margiis. He is talking to Ananda Margiis.
#2: In His guideline, Baba uses the term “sannyasii” whereby he is referring to all our wholetimer workers, i.e. avadhutas, avadhutikas etc.
#3: So the above guideline is proof that there are sannyasis in our Ananda Marga, and those sannyasis are our avadhutas and avadhutikas etc.
Ignorance of Dada Vandanananda
Now let us take a look at what Dada Vandanananda wrote the other day on the public forum.
Vandanananda wrote: “Avadhutas and Avadhutikas are not Sanyasis.”
Thus Dadaji is proclaiming that our Wts - our avadhutas and avadhutikas - are not sannyasis.
>From his statement, even a simple child can understand that Vandanananda is confused. Sadguru Baba is clearly indicating in Caryacarya that there are sannyasis in our Ananda Marga and those sannyasis are our wholetime workers, i.e. avadhutas, avadhutikas etc. And on the opposite side, Vandanananda writes: “Avadhutas and Avadhutikas are not Sanyasis.”
Clearly Dada Vandanananda is not aware about our Ananda Marga teachings. And what makes the matter more dramatic is that he himself is an avadhuta. Indeed, he has been an avadhuta for years and years yet he is completely unaware that he is a sannyasii. Thus he has taken a great vow in his life yet he is not even aware about the very nature of his own existence. If it weren’t such a flagrant and sizeable blind spot, it would be quite laughable.
And now Dadaji is giving a public discourse on this matter - as if he is an expert on such affairs.
All that can be said furthermore is this.
Sadguru Baba says, “If one tries to interpret a profound scripture with superficial knowledge, the interpreter appears ridiculous.” (2)
And indeed that is what has happened here. Dada Vandanananda looks ridiculous.
in Him,
Shanti
Note 1: Here again is the section from Caryacarya part 3 where the term sannyasi has been mentioned. By the below section it is crystal-clear Sadguru Baba is directly addressing all Ananda Margiis and He is using the term sannyásii to specifically refer to our Wt cadre, i.e. avadhutas and avadhutikas etc.
“It is imperative to fast without water on ekádashii (eleventh day after full moon and new moon). In addition, if desired, a fast can be observed on two more days of the month, namely púrńimá (full moon) and amávasyá (new moon). For a sannyásii (renunciant) it is imperative to fast invariably on both ekádashiis, púrńimá and amávasyá.” (3)
Reference
1. Caryacarya-3, The Body, point #5
2. Namah Shivaya Shantaya, Shiva's Teachings – 2 (continued) (Discourse 14)
3. Caryacarya-3, The Body, point #5
Enclosure:
Date: Sat, 14 Nov 2015 09:05:35 +0530
From: Dada Vandanananda <dadava.....nanda@gmail.com>
Dear All
….
Avadhuta and Avdhutikas are not Sanyasis .
They are Kapalikas and committed to Guru's mission.
vandanananda
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Re: Prout: which language is the best?
Namaskar,
I refer to the issue on language, particularly the lingua franca of the world.
During a Field Walk in Lumpini Park in Bangkok, Thailand in 1979, I raised the issue of the World Language with Baba. Among other things, I asked Baba if He would create a World Language in the future. I was then graced with the opportunity to serve as His bodyguard.
After a few steps, He stopped walking and turned to me. He explained that at present English served as the lingua franca of the world. He also said that people tried to create a new lingua franca but failed.
Then, He said that a new lingua franca would evolve in time, replacing the present lingua franca. He also intimated the fundamental sounds that would form the basis of the new World Language and the reasons for the fundamental sounds. He made several sounds. I cannot remember the sounds or the reasons why those fundamental sounds would form the basis of the coming World Language.
He finished by saying that He was currently very busy and that if He had the time He would do something about it.
On hindsight, at least for the benefit of language research and accuracy, I should have carried a voice recorder to record Baba's messages during the Field Walk. Sadly, that was not the case. I have to be content with only the snatches of information I can recall of this subject.
In Him
Birendra
Here is a link to the original letter - Prout: which language is best?
“Knowing oneself is the real knowledge; serving all with the ideation of Náráyańa, the real action, and the vow to please Parama Puruśa the real devotion.”
Note: The above is one of Baba’s original Ananda Vaniis. These original and true Ananda Vaniis are unique, eternal guidelines that stand as complete discourses in and of themselves. They are unlike Fake Ananda Vaniis which are fabricated by most of the groups - H, B etc.
This email contains four sections:
1. Posting: Delirium of Dada Vandanananda
2. Comment: Re: Prout - which language is best
3. Knowing oneself is the real knowledge - Ananda Vanii
4. Links
Delirium of Dada Vandanananda
Namaskar,
Recently Dada Vandanananda made a peculiar proclamation on one of the public forums. Dada’s statement is even more confounding given that he himself is an avadhuta. Before seeing exactly what Dada Vandanananda wrote, let us examine Guru’s teachings.
For a sannyásii (renunciant) it is imperative to fast
Here below is a directive given by Sadguru Baba in Caryacarya. Pay particular attention to the term highlighted in yellow - i.e. sannyasii.
Ananda Marga philosophy states, “It is imperative to fast without water on ekádashii (eleventh day after full moon and new moon). In addition, if desired, a fast can be observed on two more days of the month, namely púrńimá (full moon) and amávasyá (new moon). For a sannyásii (renunciant) it is imperative to fast invariably on both ekádashiis, púrńimá and amávasyá.” (1)
There are a few takeaways from the above teaching:
#1: Baba is directly addressing Ananda Margiis - i.e. family margiis and Wts - because the above guideline is from Caryacarya. Thus Baba is not addressing any other other community of people, i.e. non-margiis. He is talking to Ananda Margiis.
#2: In His guideline, Baba uses the term “sannyasii” whereby he is referring to all our wholetimer workers, i.e. avadhutas, avadhutikas etc.
#3: So the above guideline is proof that there are sannyasis in our Ananda Marga, and those sannyasis are our avadhutas and avadhutikas etc.
Ignorance of Dada Vandanananda
Now let us take a look at what Dada Vandanananda wrote the other day on the public forum.
Vandanananda wrote: “Avadhutas and Avadhutikas are not Sanyasis.”
Thus Dadaji is proclaiming that our Wts - our avadhutas and avadhutikas - are not sannyasis.
>From his statement, even a simple child can understand that Vandanananda is confused. Sadguru Baba is clearly indicating in Caryacarya that there are sannyasis in our Ananda Marga and those sannyasis are our wholetime workers, i.e. avadhutas, avadhutikas etc. And on the opposite side, Vandanananda writes: “Avadhutas and Avadhutikas are not Sanyasis.”
Clearly Dada Vandanananda is not aware about our Ananda Marga teachings. And what makes the matter more dramatic is that he himself is an avadhuta. Indeed, he has been an avadhuta for years and years yet he is completely unaware that he is a sannyasii. Thus he has taken a great vow in his life yet he is not even aware about the very nature of his own existence. If it weren’t such a flagrant and sizeable blind spot, it would be quite laughable.
And now Dadaji is giving a public discourse on this matter - as if he is an expert on such affairs.
All that can be said furthermore is this.
Sadguru Baba says, “If one tries to interpret a profound scripture with superficial knowledge, the interpreter appears ridiculous.” (2)
And indeed that is what has happened here. Dada Vandanananda looks ridiculous.
in Him,
Shanti
Note 1: Here again is the section from Caryacarya part 3 where the term sannyasi has been mentioned. By the below section it is crystal-clear Sadguru Baba is directly addressing all Ananda Margiis and He is using the term sannyásii to specifically refer to our Wt cadre, i.e. avadhutas and avadhutikas etc.
“It is imperative to fast without water on ekádashii (eleventh day after full moon and new moon). In addition, if desired, a fast can be observed on two more days of the month, namely púrńimá (full moon) and amávasyá (new moon). For a sannyásii (renunciant) it is imperative to fast invariably on both ekádashiis, púrńimá and amávasyá.” (3)
Reference
1. Caryacarya-3, The Body, point #5
2. Namah Shivaya Shantaya, Shiva's Teachings – 2 (continued) (Discourse 14)
3. Caryacarya-3, The Body, point #5
Enclosure:
Date: Sat, 14 Nov 2015 09:05:35 +0530
From: Dada Vandanananda <dadava.....nanda@gmail.com>
Dear All
….
Avadhuta and Avdhutikas are not Sanyasis .
They are Kapalikas and committed to Guru's mission.
vandanananda
If you wish to see Dada Vandanananda’s compete email please write us.
== Section 2 ==
Re: Prout: which language is the best?
Namaskar,
I refer to the issue on language, particularly the lingua franca of the world.
During a Field Walk in Lumpini Park in Bangkok, Thailand in 1979, I raised the issue of the World Language with Baba. Among other things, I asked Baba if He would create a World Language in the future. I was then graced with the opportunity to serve as His bodyguard.
After a few steps, He stopped walking and turned to me. He explained that at present English served as the lingua franca of the world. He also said that people tried to create a new lingua franca but failed.
Then, He said that a new lingua franca would evolve in time, replacing the present lingua franca. He also intimated the fundamental sounds that would form the basis of the new World Language and the reasons for the fundamental sounds. He made several sounds. I cannot remember the sounds or the reasons why those fundamental sounds would form the basis of the coming World Language.
He finished by saying that He was currently very busy and that if He had the time He would do something about it.
On hindsight, at least for the benefit of language research and accuracy, I should have carried a voice recorder to record Baba's messages during the Field Walk. Sadly, that was not the case. I have to be content with only the snatches of information I can recall of this subject.
In Him
Birendra
Here is a link to the original letter - Prout: which language is best?
== Section 3 ==
Knowing oneself is the real knowledge - Ananda Vanii #25
“Knowing oneself is the real knowledge; serving all with the ideation of Náráyańa, the real action, and the vow to please Parama Puruśa the real devotion.”
Note: The above is one of Baba’s original Ananda Vaniis. These original and true Ananda Vaniis are unique, eternal guidelines that stand as complete discourses in and of themselves. They are unlike Fake Ananda Vaniis which are fabricated by most of the groups - H, B etc.
== Section 4 ==
Links
Should your name be translated
Understanding death
Example: Fake things in Ananda Vacanamrtam
Links
Should your name be translated
Understanding death
Example: Fake things in Ananda Vacanamrtam
