Wed, 26 Jun 2013
Baba
Namaskar,
The letter directly below is the unfortunate example of how simple people are indoctrinated into the dogma of Bangalisation by my very own Kolkata people. Sadly, the person - Shrii Maitiji - who posted the below comment lost his common sense.
That is the tragic outcome when some of my own Bengali Wts indoctrinate people into their narrow fold. In that case, the person's (i.e. victim's) brain goes missing. Under such conditions, how can one even think that unity will be achieved. It cannot when the mind is wrought in group agendas like Bangalisation.
The person who commented below is a classic stooge - he cannot think that what he is saying is wrong. He cannot conceive of the idea that Baba's spoken voice - whether in English, Hindi, or some other language - stands as the original language of that particular discourse. Our Bengali / Bangla language is not the default "original language" for every Baba discourse. That is not the correct approach.
But when a person's mind has been wholly indoctrinated into a narrow-minded sentiment, then they cannot realise nor understand common-sense truths. All in all, it is quite deplorable that my Bengali people are doing like this to unsuspecting persons. On this point, I cannot stand by my Bengali wholetimers & supporters.
This is the time to support universalism and neo-humanism, not any myopic path like our Bangalisation.
Namaskar,
In Him,
Pratima Basu
Subject: Re: ~ AMPS News ~ All Baba’s Books Should Be Based On ”Original Bengali” Not English Etc. – Bha’skara’nandaji – Part D
Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2013 10:57:26 +0530
From: Bibhansu Maiti <beema....l.com>
To: Ananda Marga News Bulletin 2 <anandamargan.....sthanam.net>
Dear Narayan Dada,
In reference to Bhaskaranandaji's statement on Bengal or Bengali,
every point is correct, whether someone can digest it or not.
So without misguiding or trying to pollute margii's mind please do something positive.
Apart from negative prachar there are so many things to do. Please try to motivate
yourself in a positive way.
Namaskar.
Bibhansu Maiti
====== FOR THOSE WHO WISH TO KNOW MORE - BELOW IS A SYNOPSIS AND EXCERPTS OF THE VARIOUS OUTLANDISH CLAIMS MADE BY DADA BHA'SKARA'NANDA FROM PRIOR LETTERS =====
Dada Bha'skara'nandji has proclaimed:
- Baba favoured Bengal over others.
- Bengal is very advanced and ahead of the rest of the world in all spheres - what Bengal thinks and does, the rest of the world follows.
- Regardless of the language Baba originally spoke in delivering His discourse, Bengali should always be treated as the original. Dadaji claims Baba gave this order.
- Baba favours Bengal so I joined B group to please Him.
- Every published discourse should be prefaced with this statement: "Translated from the Original Bengali."
So these are the claims that Dada Bha'skara'nandji has made.
Baba
RE: COMMENTS ON BHA'SKARA'NANDJI'S
OUTLANDISH PROCLAMATIONS
OUTLANDISH PROCLAMATIONS
Namaskar,
The letter directly below is the unfortunate example of how simple people are indoctrinated into the dogma of Bangalisation by my very own Kolkata people. Sadly, the person - Shrii Maitiji - who posted the below comment lost his common sense.
That is the tragic outcome when some of my own Bengali Wts indoctrinate people into their narrow fold. In that case, the person's (i.e. victim's) brain goes missing. Under such conditions, how can one even think that unity will be achieved. It cannot when the mind is wrought in group agendas like Bangalisation.
The person who commented below is a classic stooge - he cannot think that what he is saying is wrong. He cannot conceive of the idea that Baba's spoken voice - whether in English, Hindi, or some other language - stands as the original language of that particular discourse. Our Bengali / Bangla language is not the default "original language" for every Baba discourse. That is not the correct approach.
But when a person's mind has been wholly indoctrinated into a narrow-minded sentiment, then they cannot realise nor understand common-sense truths. All in all, it is quite deplorable that my Bengali people are doing like this to unsuspecting persons. On this point, I cannot stand by my Bengali wholetimers & supporters.
This is the time to support universalism and neo-humanism, not any myopic path like our Bangalisation.
Namaskar,
In Him,
Pratima Basu
Subject: Re: ~ AMPS News ~ All Baba’s Books Should Be Based On ”Original Bengali” Not English Etc. – Bha’skara’nandaji – Part D
Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2013 10:57:26 +0530
From: Bibhansu Maiti <beema....l.com>
To: Ananda Marga News Bulletin 2 <anandamargan.....sthanam.net>
Dear Narayan Dada,
In reference to Bhaskaranandaji's statement on Bengal or Bengali,
every point is correct, whether someone can digest it or not.
So without misguiding or trying to pollute margii's mind please do something positive.
Apart from negative prachar there are so many things to do. Please try to motivate
yourself in a positive way.
Namaskar.
Bibhansu Maiti
====== FOR THOSE WHO WISH TO KNOW MORE - BELOW IS A SYNOPSIS AND EXCERPTS OF THE VARIOUS OUTLANDISH CLAIMS MADE BY DADA BHA'SKARA'NANDA FROM PRIOR LETTERS =====
Dada Bha'skara'nandji has proclaimed:
- Baba favoured Bengal over others.
- Bengal is very advanced and ahead of the rest of the world in all spheres - what Bengal thinks and does, the rest of the world follows.
- Regardless of the language Baba originally spoke in delivering His discourse, Bengali should always be treated as the original. Dadaji claims Baba gave this order.
- Baba favours Bengal so I joined B group to please Him.
- Every published discourse should be prefaced with this statement: "Translated from the Original Bengali."
So these are the claims that Dada Bha'skara'nandji has made.
== Here Below is an excerpt from the original letter:
Subject: Meeting with Dada Bha'skara'nanda
Date: Sun, 23 Jun 2013 15:03:55 +0800 (SGT)
From: narayan panda <...........@yahoo.co.in>
To: Ananda Marga News Bulletin
Baba
ALL BABA’S BOOKS SHOULD BE BASED ON ”ORIGINAL BENGALI”
NOT ENGLISH ETC.– BHA’SKARA’NANDAJI – PART D:
"DADAJI'S TWO FALSE CLAIMS"
NOT ENGLISH ETC.– BHA’SKARA’NANDAJI – PART D:
"DADAJI'S TWO FALSE CLAIMS"
Dada Bhaskarananda began advocating why all Baba's discourses should be based on the so-called original Bengali. Here the term so-called is employed because we all know Baba delivered discourses in so many languages including Hindi and English.
Ac Bhaskarananda told: "Maniis'a'nanda opposed having "Translated from original Bengali" printed on the title page of each book. But you know that Ba'ba' has formulated so many rules & regulations in Publication Department. Accordingly, it is customary to translate the original discourse into Bengali & then to Hindi / English."
That means even if Baba has delivered the discourse originally in Hindi, then that Hindi should be translated into Bengali, which then becomes the new master or "original." Then using the Bengali as the new source text, the discourse should be translated from Bengali to English and then into other languages. So even though it is a Hindi discourse, Bengali should get pride of place and on the inside of the book it should be stated, "Translated from the original Bengali."
Such was Dada Bhaskaranandji's claim.
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