Meeting With Dada: Stories of Guru Giving Tests

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3. PS #379: मैंने प्रारंभिक वर्षों में तुम को नहीं तलाशा  इसके लिये मुझे गहरा अनुताप है।
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MEETING WITH DADA:

STORIES OF GURU GIVING TESTS

Namaskar,
In the early months of 2012, many came to know about the alleged sexual crime committed by Dada Mukunda.

Some time later I happened to come across Dadaji and got opportunity to speak with him. After exchanging common courtesies, we began to speak about his past - and how and why it happened.

DADAJI HAS NO REPENTANCE FOR HIS WRONGDOING

I asked Dadaji, "Do you have repentance for your wrongdoing."

Dadaji responded, "Repentance? Why repentance, I did not do anything wrong."

Hearing thus, I was surprised: How could Dadaji deny any wrongdoing for such heinous acts on such innocent, defenseless victims.

Dada Mukunda could see that I was incredulous, so he began to explain more about his perspective.

PARAMA PURUSA GAVE ME A TEST

SO I WAS NOT AT FAULT

"Before all that happened, my mind was fine. Then one day, Baba gave me a test and shifted my mind in another direction; and then I began doing all those misdeeds. So you see - that was not me - per se. Rather, Baba made my mind like that. He was purposely giving me a test - to see how I would respond."

Dadaji continued, "Well, clearly I failed that test. But that was not my fault. Baba put my mind in that condition. That was His test. So I have no repentance. Guru creates the situation and gives tests. That all occurred on Baba's desire that I should undergo one test - which I clearly failed."

DOES PARAMA PURUSA TEST EVERYONE - OR ONLY YOU

Then I asked him, "Did Baba do this type of test only with you, or does He test others in this way also?"

Dada Mukunda replied, "Oh yes, this is very common. Baba is always giving tests to people in this way. Don't you know?"

"For example, take the alleged case of Dada Tiirthanandji. Dadaji became infatuated with one Didi and together they left their acaryaships etc. That was a test. Tiirthanandji was doing fine then Baba decided to give him a test. On this matter, Tiirthanandji is completely innocent - the whole blame goes to Baba. We cannot blame Tiirthanandji - no way."

My curiosity was peaked. I asked if Dada Mukunda had any more examples.

PARAMA PURUSA GAVE TEST TO DEFECTORS

SO THEY ARE NOT AT FAULT

"Yes, yes, there are many more examples - some famous and some not famous."

"Take the classic case of Dada Madhvananda in 1970. At the time he was a first-class avadhuta and an A-grade person. He was the chief of VSS and very obedient. Then Baba gave him one test. In result, Madhavanandji became a defector and brought one murder case against Baba. This was not Dada Madhavanandji's fault - this was just a test given by Guru. So when everything was done by Parama Purusa then why blame Madhavanandji. It is Baba's fault."

Then I said, "Okay, that was long ago, what about a more recent example."

Dadaji replied, "I will certainly answer your query but first you must know that Dada Tapeshvaranandji was also given test by Guru in this way. In those days of 1970, Dada Tapeshvaranandji completely lost his faith in Guru and became a defector. But it was not his fault. Guru was giving him a test and Guru was accountable for this. Because verily Guru realised He gave too strong a test and brought back Dada Tapeshvaranandji. This proves that it was not Tapeshvaranandji's fault for defecting against Guru. Similarly, no blame can be attached to Madhavanandji. The only difference is that Guru gave the test to Madhavanandji but never undid it. Whereas with Tapeshvaranandji, Guru brought him back. So these types of defections are not sin - the person involved did no wrong - rather Guru was giving tests."

I nodded and before I could again ask my question, Dada Mukunda ventured forwards.

MURDERERS AND EXPLOITERS ALSO CANNOT BE BLAMED

JUST GURU GAVE THEM TESTS

Dadaji said, "Now let address your query of more recent examples. Sure, take the case of B group Dadas who  allegedly murdered Ac Abhipremanandji Avt. That murder was not the fault of those Wts. They were undergoing a test given to them by Guru. Guru made their mind in that way and a fight ensued. So it was not their fault. All is upon the shoulders of Guru. He gave them that test. At the time, Guru was also giving Abhipremanandji his test. So all played their roles given to them by Baba."

I interjected, "Really, do you have other examples?"

Mukundanandji added, "Sure - Take the situation of Dada Sambhutyanandji with the Fake BP Manual and decimation of margii rights. No one can rightly blame Sambhutyanandji for any wrongdoing or injustice. He was always a good Dada and then Baba gave him a test and made his mind in that way. So it was not Dadaji's fault; rather all blame goes to Guru and His test."

"For that matter, the same can be said of B group and their ongoing distortions of Ananda Marga scripture. Baba gave them a test and made their mind in that way. So here again no blame should be attached to B group / Tiljala for the mass distortion of Ananda Marga books."

At that point I became really curious and asked, "Is Parama Purusa only doing this with Wts? Is that the special system?"

PARAMA PURUSA GIVES TESTS TO ALL:

DELHI GANG RAPISTS NOT TO BE BLAMED

Dadakji quickly retorted, "Absolutely not. All are involved in this."

Then Mukunda explained that this same theory of Guru giving tests applies to non-margiis also.

"Those Delhi gang rape perpetrators are merely under test from Parama Purusa. They did not decide to commit any vile act. Only Parama Purusa put them in test and changed their mind. That is the first and last cause. So the courts have it completely wrong. Those gang-rape assailants are innocent and not to be blamed."

DADAJI'S BOGUS JUSTIFICATION

USING ANANDA MARGA PHILOSOPHY

After listening in disgust, I inquired, "Dadaji, about this philosophy of yours,do you have any supportive proof of this from Ananda Marga teaching?"

Dada Mukunda stated, "Most certainly. You must have heard that avidya maya is controlled by Parama Purusa. So whatever wrong anyone does is the work of avidya maya so ultimately Parama Purusa is responsible. Avidya maya is a blind forces and therefore cannot work without the help of the Supreme Controller - Parama Purusa. So Parama Purusa is 100% responsible - He is the ultimate cause. Numerous professors, philosophers, and engineers have reasoned in this way."

Immediately, I thought that this was a complete misinterpretation of Ananda Marga philosophy because any rational sadhaka knows that Parama Purusa cannot be blamed for a person's wrongdoing. Even then I was curious to hear more from Dadaji.

DADA T'S BOOK MISGUIDED DADAJI

Awed by what I heard, I asked, "Who first told you this philosophy that Guru gives tests whereby disciples commit crimes?"

Mukundanandji replied that, "It is commonly known and has been highlighted in Tapeshvaranandji's book - in the chapter "The Seven Tests of Guru." Don't you know about this book. It is so famous and every sincere Ananda Margii knows that Guru gives tests. Professors, intellectuals, engineers, all know that Guru gives tests. He creates the situation and Guru gives tests. So everyone is aware that when any seeming wrongdoing occurs then Guru is to be blamed for giving tests."

I was both baffled and shocked by all that Dadaji had to say. I spoke aloud, "Really, these are all cases of Guru giving tests?"

Dadaji told, "I could give you innumerable more examples of Baba giving similar tests to Dadas and Didis. There are endless cases - I could talk all day and night about this.

Hearing thus, I thought, "God save us from this perverted philosophy where Guru gives tests so that disciples fall from the path."

ANANDA MARGA PHILOSOPHY:

WRONGDOERS ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR THEIR MISDEEDS - NOT PARAMA PURUSA

Here is the true teaching from Ananda Marga philosophy.

   Ananda Marga scripture says, "The more microcosms advance along the path of Pratisaincara, the more developed they become, and the more freedom they are granted to act independently. Of course they can only enjoy as much freedom as the Supreme Authority chooses to give them. The amount of suffering caused by reactive momenta depends upon how microcosms use or misuse this freedom. It serves no purpose whatsoever to blame the Supreme Entity for this suffering. After all, you have been given the freedom, the full liberty, to perform the original deeds as you think fit. Since every action contains a seed of reaction you will have to undergo the reactions of your actions. These seeds or reactive momenta are expressed through your non-original deeds (sam'skára múlaka) over which you have no control."
   "A person is reborn in a physical structure and physical environment which are congenial for the expression of the unrequited sam'skáras. The Cosmic Mind directs the disembodied soul to that particular environment where it will get the maximum opportunity for the expression of its latent sam'skáras. Thats why some people live miserable lives in squalid conditions and suffer from poor health while others lead joyful, healthy, and worry-free lives in a comfortable environment. Yet no matter what circumstances one finds oneself in, one must realize and accept that no situation is without hope. For ones psychic expansion, one will have to keep ones mind fixed on the Supreme Entity, one will have to advance towards that Absolute Entity while removing all obstacles from the path." (AMIWL-7, Form and Formless)

Namaskar,
in Him,
Ramdev


Note: This was the Dada Mukunda of the Daltonganj incident.

== Section 2 ==

उच्च पदों पर बैठे पुरोधा ---अपने स्वार्थसिद्धि हेतु संस्था को कोर्ट कचहरी में उलझाकर रखे हुए है।

Re: Dogma: “X Is The Only Son Of God”

दादा नमस्कार,  बहुत दुःख होता है ये देखकर की अपने ही गुरु के बनाए हुए संस्था को अपने व्यक्तिगत स्वार्थ के लिए अलग अलग ग्रुप में बांटा गया और उसके बाद भी आदर्श प्रचार छोड़कर एक दुसरे के कुप्रचार में हम लगे हुए है,परम पुरुष बाबा हमेशा अपने व्यासासन से कहते थे की समय बहुत कम है खूब साधना करो खूब कीर्तन करो जन कल्याण करो आदर्श का प्रचार करो। और आज उच्च पदों पर बैठे अपने को पुरोधा और आचार्य पद के हकदार समझनेवाले सीनियर लोग शायद इन सारी बातों को भूलकर अपने स्वार्थसिद्धि हेतु संस्था को कोर्ट कचहरी के चक्कर में उलझाकर रखे हुए है। परम पुरुष बाबा ने कहा है कि अपने जीवन को विपन्न करके भी anandamarga की रक्षा करोगे। लेकिन अपने को परम पुरुष बाबा के करीब रहने का दावा करनेवाले लोग आज संस्था को विपन्न करके अपने व्यक्तिगत जीवन की रक्षा में लगे है। आज की इस परिस्थति में आनंदमार्ग के लिए इससे बड़ा दुर्भाग्य और क्या हो सकता है। आज गृही और कुछ सच्चे wt जो परम पुरुष बाबा के निर्देशों को मानते है वो भी चाहे तो कोर्ट में जा सकता है लेकिन परम पुरुष बाबा के निर्देशों को मानते हुए चुप है क्योंकि anandamarga ही ऐसे लोगों का जीवन है। । लेकिन इसे कुछ लोग मार्गियों की कमजोरी समझते है। वैसे लोगो से अनुरोध है की परम पुरुष बाबा के बताये तरीकों से आत्ममंथन करे। और अपने में सुधार लायें तो यूनिटी के लिए अलग से कोई प्रयास नहीं करना होगा स्वतः सारी problem परम पुरुष बाबा की कृपा से खुद बखुद solve हो जायेगी।

In His service,
Indrajiit

Ucca padōṁ para baiṭhē purōdhā ---apanē svārthasid'dhi hētu

sansthā kō kōrṭa kacaharī mēṁ ulajhākara rakhē hu'ē hai.

Dādā namaskāra, bahuta duḥkha hōtā hai yē dēkhakara kī apanē hī guru kē banā'ē hu'ē sansthā kō apanē vyaktigata svārtha kē li'ē alaga alaga grupa mēṁ bāṇṭā gayā aura usakē bāda bhī ādarśa pracāra chōṛakara ēka dusarē kē kupracāra mēṁ hama lagē hu'ē hai,parama puruṣa bābā hamēśā apanē vyāsāsana sē kahatē thē kī samaya bahuta kama hai khūba sādhanā karō khūba kīrtana karō jana kalyāṇa karō ādarśa kā pracāra karō. Aura āja ucca padōṁ para baiṭhē apanē kō purōdhā aura ācārya pada kē hakadāra samajhanēvālē sīniyara lōga śāyada ina sārī bātōṁ kō bhūlakara apanē svārthasid'dhi hētu sansthā kō kōrṭa kacaharī kē cakkara mēṁ ulajhākara rakhē hu'ē hai. Parama puruṣa bābā nē kahā hai ki apanē jīvana kō vipanna karakē bhī anandamarga kī rakṣā karōgē. Lēkina apanē kō parama puruṣa bābā kē karība rahanē kā dāvā karanēvālē lōga āja sansthā kō vipanna karakē apanē vyaktigata jīvana kī rakṣā mēṁ lagē hai. Āja kī isa paristhati mēṁ ānandamārga kē li'ē isasē baṛā durbhāgya aura kyā hō sakatā hai. Āja gr̥hī aura kucha saccē wt jō parama puruṣa bābā kē nirdēśōṁ kō mānatē hai vō bhī cāhē tō kōrṭa mēṁ jā sakatā hai lēkina parama puruṣa bābā kē nirdēśōṁ kō mānatē hu'ē cupa hai kyōṅki anandamarga hī aisē lōgōṁ kā jīvana hai. . Lēkina isē kucha lōga mārgiyōṁ kī kamajōrī samajhatē hai. Vaisē lōgō sē anurōdha hai kī parama puruṣa bābā kē batāyē tarīkōṁ sē ātmamanthana karē. Aura apanē mēṁ sudhāra lāyēṁ tō yūniṭī kē li'ē alaga sē kō'ī prayāsa nahīṁ karanā hōgā svataḥ sārī problem parama puruṣa bābā kī kr̥pā sē khuda bakhuda solve hō jāyēgī.

In His service,
Indrajiit

 

 

== Section 3 ==

मैंने प्रारंभिक वर्षों में तुम को नहीं तलाशा  इसके लिये मुझे गहरा अनुताप है।

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भावार्थ

ए परमपुरुष, मेरे प्रियतम! मेरे जीवन के ऊषा काल में तुम मेरे निकट नहीं आये। परंतु मेरे मन मे यह दुख नहीं है कि--तुमने मुझे उस समय अपने संरक्षण में क्यों नहीं लिया, मेरे निकट आकर मेरे अभिन्न क्यों नहीं हुए। इसके लिये मेरे मन में कोई क्रोध या मानसिक कष्ट नहीं है। परंतु मेरे मन में पछतावा अवश्य  है कि मैने  उस समय तुम्हारी खोज क्यों नहीं की। यही कारण है कि मेरा हृदय पूरे समय रोता रहता है जलता रहता है।  मेरी सचमुच गलती है कि मैंने प्रारंभिक वर्षों में तुम को नहीं तलाशा  इसके लिये मुझे गहरा अनुताप है।

ए पुरुषोत्तम, उस समय तुम मेरे कितने निकट थे हमेशा mere dil me साथ-साथ रहते, तब भी मैने तुम्हें न तो पुकारा और न ही साधना सीख कर तुम्हारी खोज की। उस समय मैने कोई चिंता ही नहीं की | मेरे जीवन के सभी प्रारंभिक रात और दिन, व्यर्थ के विभिन्न कामों में नष्ट होते गये। अब इस जीवन के मध्य में उन दिनों की बहुत याद आती है और मैं अपार कष्ट का अनुभव करता हूॅं।

ए परमपुरुष ! इस धरा पर सभी लोग बहुत कम समय के लिये ही आते हैं | अनेक काम करते हैं, और फलहीन होकर समय व्यर्थ नष्ट  होने पर तुमको, अपने दुर्भाग्य के लिये कोसते हैं | पर इसका कोई लाभ नहीं है | सबको अपने संस्कारों का परिणाम भोगना ही पड़ता है। जब वे अपने अहंकार का cha’ta’ अपने सिर के ऊपर से हटा लेते हैं तब उन्हे पता चलता है कि तुम्हारी कृपा बृष्टि तो सदा ही सब पर होती रहती है। ए परमपुरुष ! Baba,  तुम तो सदा कृपालु हो, तुम वही करते हैं जो मेरे लिये सर्वोत्तम होता है, मेरी केवल यही इच्छा है कि सदा तुम्हारी शरण में ही बना रहॅूं।

- Dr T.R. Sukul

== Section 4 ==

Links

http://anandamarganewsbulletin.blogspot.com/2014/07/dogma-x-is-only-son-of-god.html

http://anandamarganewsbulletin.blogspot.com/2014/07/margii-rights-are-snatched-away-4.html