Baba
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Namaskar,
Some believe the myth that the pre-1990 AMPS books are the gold-standard. But that is simply not true. Here are a few examples for you to check out for yourself. Then you will reach the conclusion that their claim that “the pre-1990 books are the gold-standard” is false. It will be debunked and proven to be a mere myth.
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Example #1:
pre-1990 Tattvika Praveshika margii rights is full
Here below is the full paragraph from the “Ananda Marga: A Revolution” discourse about margii rights printed in Tattvika Praveshika book in 1957. Kindly read the text outlined by the red box at the bottom of page 121 and continued on page 122 in the text outlined by the red box.
The above text outlined by the red box is the first section about margii rights printed on page 121, and below is the second section on page 122 of the Tattvika Praveshika book (1957). These two sections, marked by the above and below red boxes, represent the full version of the AM Revolution discourse.
The text outlined in red in the above two scans is the full paragraph about margii rights printed in the Tattvika Praveshika book in 1957. So the Tattvika Praveshika book contains the complete paragraph about margii rights. And below are five more places where the same paragraph about margii rights has been published in full.
All told then, there six publications that present the full margii rights paragraph in the “Ananda Marga: A Revolution” discourse:
(a) The original book, "Tattvika Praveshika" (1957)
(b) Prout Nutshell, part 11, p.1 (Dec 1987) 1st edition
(c) AM Philosophy in a Nutshell, part 3, p.165 in (Mar 1988) 1st edition
(d) A Few Problems Solved, part 7, p.1 in (Jan 1988) 1st edition
(e) Seminar Notes of January 1993;
(f) Cosmic Society 75th anniversary Edition (1996).
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Now here below, the following book is also a pre-1990 publication of the “Ananda Marga: A Revolution” discourse, but the paragraph about margii rights has been cut and deleted.
Example #2:
pre-1990 same article margii rights deleted - AM Philosophy (B, 1988)
The Ananda Marga philosophy (B) August 1988 edition also contains the discourse “Ananda Marga: A Revolution.” But in this book, i.e. Ananda Marga philosophy (B), the key paragraph about margii rights has been deleted. Essentially the margii rights paragraph was removed and Tiljala replaced that with the idea expressed in the below two sentences:
Ananda Marga makes no distinction between a family person and a sannyásii. It needed the courage of a revolutionary to say so.
Click on link #1 in the Links Section below to see how the above two sentences were presented in the book - Ananda Marga philosophy (B) August 1988 edition.
Conclusion:
“pre-1990 AMPS books are the gold-standard” is bogus & false
By the above, it is clear that examples #1 & #2 do not match. They are radically different both in length and in message. Yet they are from the same section of the same discourse. And both are from pre-1990 Ananda Marga books. In that case, how can one say that all pre-1990 books are the gold-standard.
In review, example #1 says that margiis are “deserving of more respect” and example #2 says something completely different. Plus example #2 is much shorter as the original Tattvika Praveshika paragraph was deleted. And again, these are both pre-1990 era books presenting the same discourse in grossly different ways. Obviously both chapters cannot be correct. So the myth that “pre-1990 AMPS books are the gold-standard” is bogus and false. That is just a myth.
We have to think rationally. We cannot issue a blanket statement that the pre-1990 or post-1990 AMPS books are the gold standard. We have to see evaluate publication on a case by case basis and then compare that with the original cassette / audio file. After careful review, we will know the standard of each book.
Those who are alert should watch out and save Sadguru Baba’s discourses. Remaining in dreamland that pre-1990 books are the gold standard is self-delusional and self-destructive.
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In Him,
Liila
(Lana McCullough)
Here below is how the paragraph was presented in the book - Ananda Marga philosophy (B) August 1988 edition. The two lines are marked in red.
Here below is the title page of the book - Ananda Marga philosophy (B) August 1988 edition.
मायाजाल में फँस गया
प्रभात संगीत: # 4091 ámi, tomáre bhúliyá chinu kata din, calechi ucal pathe paŕechi ságar shrote, chile svarńábja acin, malin hoyeche din hatádare shriihiin
बाबा, तुम्हें भूलकर मैं मायाजाल में फँस गया, मैं कितने ही दिनों से भटकता रहा । तुम्हारे बताए हुए आध्यात्मिक मार्ग के उच्च रास्ते पर चल रहा था, वहीँ से मैं सागर में जा गिरा । यह सब तुम्हें भूल जाने के कारण ही हुआ । हे स्वर्ण-कमल, तुम दूर ही रह गए । तुमसे दूर जाने के कारण मैं पतित हो गया। मेरा जीवन गन्दा हो गया, जिसके कारण मेरे मन से तुम्हारे प्रति आकर्षण चला गया, जिससे मैं दुःख में हूँ ।
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Myth: Pre-1990 AMPS books are mistake-free
Namaskar,
Some believe the myth that the pre-1990 AMPS books are the gold-standard. But that is simply not true. Here are a few examples for you to check out for yourself. Then you will reach the conclusion that their claim that “the pre-1990 books are the gold-standard” is false. It will be debunked and proven to be a mere myth.
http://anandamarganewsbulletin.blogspot.com
Example #1:
pre-1990 Tattvika Praveshika margii rights is full
Here below is the full paragraph from the “Ananda Marga: A Revolution” discourse about margii rights printed in Tattvika Praveshika book in 1957. Kindly read the text outlined by the red box at the bottom of page 121 and continued on page 122 in the text outlined by the red box.
The above text outlined by the red box is the first section about margii rights printed on page 121, and below is the second section on page 122 of the Tattvika Praveshika book (1957). These two sections, marked by the above and below red boxes, represent the full version of the AM Revolution discourse.
The text outlined in red in the above two scans is the full paragraph about margii rights printed in the Tattvika Praveshika book in 1957. So the Tattvika Praveshika book contains the complete paragraph about margii rights. And below are five more places where the same paragraph about margii rights has been published in full.
All told then, there six publications that present the full margii rights paragraph in the “Ananda Marga: A Revolution” discourse:
(a) The original book, "Tattvika Praveshika" (1957)
(b) Prout Nutshell, part 11, p.1 (Dec 1987) 1st edition
(c) AM Philosophy in a Nutshell, part 3, p.165 in (Mar 1988) 1st edition
(d) A Few Problems Solved, part 7, p.1 in (Jan 1988) 1st edition
(e) Seminar Notes of January 1993;
(f) Cosmic Society 75th anniversary Edition (1996).
http://anandamarganewsbulletin.blogspot.com
Now here below, the following book is also a pre-1990 publication of the “Ananda Marga: A Revolution” discourse, but the paragraph about margii rights has been cut and deleted.
Example #2:
pre-1990 same article margii rights deleted - AM Philosophy (B, 1988)
The Ananda Marga philosophy (B) August 1988 edition also contains the discourse “Ananda Marga: A Revolution.” But in this book, i.e. Ananda Marga philosophy (B), the key paragraph about margii rights has been deleted. Essentially the margii rights paragraph was removed and Tiljala replaced that with the idea expressed in the below two sentences:
Ananda Marga makes no distinction between a family person and a sannyásii. It needed the courage of a revolutionary to say so.
Click on link #1 in the Links Section below to see how the above two sentences were presented in the book - Ananda Marga philosophy (B) August 1988 edition.
Conclusion:
“pre-1990 AMPS books are the gold-standard” is bogus & false
By the above, it is clear that examples #1 & #2 do not match. They are radically different both in length and in message. Yet they are from the same section of the same discourse. And both are from pre-1990 Ananda Marga books. In that case, how can one say that all pre-1990 books are the gold-standard.
In review, example #1 says that margiis are “deserving of more respect” and example #2 says something completely different. Plus example #2 is much shorter as the original Tattvika Praveshika paragraph was deleted. And again, these are both pre-1990 era books presenting the same discourse in grossly different ways. Obviously both chapters cannot be correct. So the myth that “pre-1990 AMPS books are the gold-standard” is bogus and false. That is just a myth.
We have to think rationally. We cannot issue a blanket statement that the pre-1990 or post-1990 AMPS books are the gold standard. We have to see evaluate publication on a case by case basis and then compare that with the original cassette / audio file. After careful review, we will know the standard of each book.
Those who are alert should watch out and save Sadguru Baba’s discourses. Remaining in dreamland that pre-1990 books are the gold standard is self-delusional and self-destructive.
http://anandamarganewsbulletin.blogspot.com
In Him,
Liila
(Lana McCullough)
Here below is the title page of the book - Ananda Marga philosophy (B) August 1988 edition.
== Section 2: Prabhat Samgiita ==
प्रभात संगीत: # 4091 ámi, tomáre bhúliyá chinu kata din, calechi ucal pathe paŕechi ságar shrote, chile svarńábja acin, malin hoyeche din hatádare shriihiin
बाबा, तुम्हें भूलकर मैं मायाजाल में फँस गया, मैं कितने ही दिनों से भटकता रहा । तुम्हारे बताए हुए आध्यात्मिक मार्ग के उच्च रास्ते पर चल रहा था, वहीँ से मैं सागर में जा गिरा । यह सब तुम्हें भूल जाने के कारण ही हुआ । हे स्वर्ण-कमल, तुम दूर ही रह गए । तुमसे दूर जाने के कारण मैं पतित हो गया। मेरा जीवन गन्दा हो गया, जिसके कारण मेरे मन से तुम्हारे प्रति आकर्षण चला गया, जिससे मैं दुःख में हूँ ।
== Section 3: Links ==
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